I recently replaced the flapper valve in an older toilet.
However the water slowly leaks throught the flapper causing the water
to refill every 10 minutes or so.
The opening where the flapper fits into is about 2 1/4 inches in
It seems none of the hardware suppliers have a flapper for this size
Does anyone know where I can purchase a flapper for this size?
Instead of a flapper, consider a FluidMaster "Flusher Fixer"
This assy gets adhered to the existing seat.
Tip: clean the seat with sandpaper first and use a hair dryer
to thoroughly dry the surface.
This thing works with *most* existing valve designs,
but there are limits.
I found this to work pretty well. After replacement, put a layer of
vasoline on the rubber flap where is contacts the seat. Eventually, the
rubber will conform to the seat and when the vasoline goes away, the
flap will continue to seat tight. This was actually recommended in the
instructions on one of the replacement flaps.
In alt.home.repair on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 04:06:07 GMT Art Todesco
What a great idea. Takes advantage of the fact that vasoline causes
rubber to deteriorate. Something the latex condom makers keep warning
about. (Reverse situation.)
I don't think this is Scott's problem, but I had a terrible time
finding a flapper to fit, even though I have a standard Elger toilet.
I thought they were a popular brand (there are 300 of them in my own
little n'hood.) and should be easy to find. Finally found one at a
neighborhood hardware store, then bought 5 more. But then they
stopped having them. But I still have some, and I used the model
number and the web to find someone who has more. I'm going to buy
enough so that if I live here for the rest of my life (38 years?)
I'll have enough for all three toilets. (If this doesn't work, I'll
take Jim's advice too.)
They last 5 or 10 years, but the first year I was here, I used 1000
Flushes in all 3 toilets, and black stains soon appeared in the
toilets and they all started leaking. I sent them back to the
company, including the flappers, and they nicely sent me a check for 3
flappers and 3 of their products. I don't get it. Surely they tested
their product with all brands of flapper. These were less than 5
years old, because the house was only 4 years old when I bought it.
Of course, until this house I never lived anywhere more than 10 years,
except Brooklyn where people in apartments had Flushometers, no tanks.
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You know, I thought about that, however, the rubber is pretty thick ...
compared to a latex condom, and it does wash away in time, so it
probably doesn't do a lot of damage to the rubber. But hey, it does
seem to work. I think some of my problems stem from a bad design from
American Standard on their 1 piece toilet. The tank is low which
equates to less pressure on the flap to mold it into seating tight.
BTW, the AmStan Hamilton (and its earlier model name ... can't remember
that name) is probably one of worst flushing toilets on the market. I
have 3 of these and they ALWAY plug up. I think the problem is too
small a flush channel and a finish which is not real smooth both inside
do yourself a favor, replace all of the toilet inards. I just did one after
work this evening.
Fluidmaster sells a complete kit for ~$18 but I cheaped out & just bought the
fill valve & complete flapper assy (~$11 total)
Empty the tank, sponge out the water dismount the tank, replace the guts,
About 45 minutes & works great.
HA! Says you. Been there, done that. 45 minutes if all goes
absolutely perfect, nothing is stuck/frozen/corroded in place and
The Gods of home repair smile on you. Try 4 hours, 2 (more)
trips to the the hardware store, 7 or 8 busted knuckles and about
$9.00 contributed to the "cuss can" in .25 increments.
Sorry, but this is a big pet peeve. "we" come on here and tell
folks this is a 45 minute cakewalk and 3 hours later they're
bleeding and throwing toilet tanks out of windows or down stairs.
Please don't mislead these poor souls.
The real Tom Pendergast [ So if you meet me, have some courtesy,
aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
Just did one Tues night in 45 minutes, the key is removing the tank & working
on the kitchen table (covered with old towels).
The sink faucet hookup (inside a small cabinet, in the same 3' by 4'
bathroom) was a whole different experience; about 2 hours of swearing & head
bumping. I forgot to re-check the drain fit up when I changed sink types.
Wound up having to remove the wall stub working inisde the cabinet, should have
loosened it when the cabinet was out of the room :(
If you're unlucky :)
It's all about planning, experience & having the right tools.
Remember the 7P's
Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
In any case, working on toilet tank when it is off the bowl is a joy compared
to fighting with it when still attached.
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