Help Please - Leaky flapper valve Kohler 1-piece K-3402 toilet

May 02, 2004 4 Replies

Help Please - Leaky flapper valve Kohler 1-piece K-3402 Rialto toilet



When I research the problem on the WWW it appears that finding a suitable replacement flapper is a known, recognized problem. Even those sold as Kohler OEM don't work properly (which I can attest to). I've found lots of discussion on that fact, plus other flapper valve suggestions, etc., but no one who says they finally fixed it. Am probably going to try to obtain/replace entire flush valve assy (my local guy says so longer made---must replace entire guts) but before I do, thought I would ask y'all if anyone has solved the problem. Old flapper disintegrating and before I junk this 15 year old, otherwise great commode and replace it with a Toto, I thought I would ask. TIA


Have you called Kohler customer service? What did they say?

One of the problems with many, not just Kohler, toilets is the corrosive effects of stuff that housewives toss in the tank to make the water blue or whatever. As the rubber damage occurs, small leaks expose some parts of the brass valve seat to more nasty stuff which erodes away that portion faster. Soon the valve seat is wavy, eccentric or anything but round and the rubber flapper will not seal. The solution to the problem is 1) replace the assembly (pricey) or 2) to clean up the brass seat area to match the rubber flapper. One commode in my fleet is a "Pompei" one piece (can't remember the K number) similar to yours. The valve seat corrosion problem arose nearly into it's second decade so I can't really complain. Ordered a bunch of repair parts, removed the assembly and serviced the valve seat area with valve grinding compound from an auto parts store. Any solid object about the size and shape of the rubber flapper can be used for lapping in the valve seat. A billiard ball is about the right size, but you may need several, it pays to be creative. In my case I have a buddy who owns a collection of neat machine tools and doesn't have enough projects to keep his toys busy so he tossed off a quick replica of the flapper ball in steel for me. And it works great now. The water bill went down $30 and there's peace in the valley. HTH

Joe

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