Lock your valuables in your car's trunk and think that it is safe?
Here's the story. In my local paper's readers letters page a driver
wrote that she locked more than $100 of groceries in her car's trunk
before going into the liquor store in the same car park. She was
away for less than 15 minutes when she found that her car's door lock
was damaged beyond repair and her groceries in the trunk stolen.
The warning here is that it is no longer safe to lock things in the
car trunk, especially items like laptop computers and your Christmas
Breaking the car lock is simple enough and my take on this is to find
or make a high strength steel T bar which has a flat blade that will
jam right into the door lock. One twist and the lock is wrecked.
Then it is relatively simple to pop the trunk's lock from the inside
trunk latch unlock lever. No one who is not next to the thief to see
the act will ever notice anything amiss.
Its a sad commentary on the modern world but its a fact of life. The
warning signs in many car parking lots to car owners to be observant
for car thieves says everything.
They can. They can do pretty much anything. The criteria is whether the
customers will pay for it, and does it enhance the bottom line. Fords used to be
so easy to steal that insurance companies told FoMoCo to either fix the problem,
or else Ford customers would find they were paying higher insurance than Chevy
owners. Ford immediately realized that was gonna hurt their reputation and sales
numbers. The problem was magically fixed in the next model year.
On 6-Jan-2004, BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com wrote:
They didn't. Fords are still easy to steal. There just not
as popular as Hondas etc - 'least around here.
Ford in Britain has been hit by the govt, I understand. They
are making the steering columns tougher as a result. Not in
Sorry. but you are incorrect. Ford DID made changes to make them as hard to
steal as a Chevy. It was enough to satisfy the insurance companies. That doesn't
mean they are "hard" to steal, it means they are no easier to steal than the
On 7-Jan-2004, BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com wrote:
As hard as a chevy? Whoopteedoo! Like, every car thief goes on and on
about how hard a Chevy is to steal!
Then what's the point? Being better than useless is not the same as being
They haven't made any significant change in the vehicles sold in NA.
They are trivially easy to steal. The only thing that will stop a car
thief (according to a reformed car thief interviewed on a news special
recently) is a combination of an alarm and club. They won't waste their
time when there's easier picking in the next parking spot.
On 7-Jan-2004, BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com wrote:
_I_ have a comprehension problem? I ask why the idiots in Detroit
can't make theftproof cars and you respond with nonsense about a
trivial change made by Ford. Do you know what theftproof means?
Are you challenged by doorknobs? - You think car thieves are?
A lot of new cars are coming with anti-theft features factory-
installed.Alarms with ignition kill,On-Star,Lo-Jack,special keys,or no-key
remote entry systems;you keep a passive RFID device inside your pocket,and
the car unlocks as you approach,locks when you leave.
Me,I'd like a microwave proximity sensor with a silent paging alarm.
Then I can catch them in the act. B-)
Yes, but mostly on high-end cars. I'm not convinced the solution has to
be so expensive. If they could just get it to the point where the thieves
have to either spent ten minutes or tow away to steal, they'd get rid of
a lot of problems. Thirty seconds to a joy ride is probably more of a
crime of opportunity - a tow-away would only be for the dedicated specialists
that steal to order.
Having On-Star shut down the car in traffic or something like that is a bit of
too-little, too-late. Expensive, good for retribution, but not for prevention.
I could steal a car equipped with a club in about 10 seconds. All I
gotta do is spray the lock to freeze it and then shatter it (Learned
this from a friend that is a repo man). also, I had a friend that was
using on of those clubs, and they cut her steering wheel to get it off.
The club is basically a waste of money. Use that money to install a
kill switch instead.
I was watching one of those repo. shows on the Learning Chanel the other
day, and they mentioned how easy it was to repo a car which was "protected"
by the club. They had a special tool that was applied in such a way to bend
the thing and snap it off. These repo guys took less time to remove the
club than it took the car owner to put in in place.
My father, the locksmith, had the answer. There have always been and
always well be thieves. People are thieves because they are lazy.
If your property is better protected and less inviting than your
neighbor's, it is safe. No matter how good your locks are, someone can beat
them. So just look next door and make yours better or make sure your
property appears less attractive.
I had a neighbor with several million in art on his walls. His home had
paint pealing off the sides and was the shabbiest in the neighborhood. He
never had any trouble. Few people knew he had anything valuable inside.
The trunk lock on my mother's mid-'80's car (US maker mid-size sedan)
screwed up once (the cylinder turns inside a soft nylon bushing, which
simply rounded off its flat sides, but that's off topic) and I was
faced with some friend's luggage stuck in the trunk. I was eventually
referred to a local body-shop guy; I pulled into his yard and started
telling him the problem, and before I got five words out he had it
open. The only thing in his hand was a piece of bent wire. I'll stop
short of describing just what he did (if only because it happened so
fast I didn't even catch it) but it had nothing to do with the lock
cylinder itself and it left no marks or damage.
Truthfully, it would be simpler to do it his way than to fumble for
the right key. If a thief had done this in a parking lot, I'd be
hard-pressed to convince someone I'd ever put the goods in there to
begin with - or I'd have to suspect family members who had copies of
Inadvertent poor security? I strongly suspect that entry methods are
deliberately engineered, to accomodate lock-outs.
Now, the problem with the lock, *that* was astonishingly poor
Like home security schemes, you *can't* prevent burglary -- you can
only make it difficult enough that the thief will move on to easier
I read a very amusing article by a fellow who'd had numerous car sound
systems and cars stolen, and finally started driving a featurless
junker, which was stolen. Police told him old, anonymous cars were
desirable as getaway vehicles.
I knew a fellow who proudly showed me all his security features. He had an
extensive alarm system, complete with pager and ignition kill. He also had a
removable stereo that fit into a custom shoulder bag. The finishing touch was
that he had a removable steering wheel that also had a fancy shoulder bag.
I immediately pointed out to him that while his car was "slightly" safer, he
would now be a choice target for muggers (and possible death) as he walked
around NYC with those fancy bags hanging off his shoulder.
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