Speaking from the position of a guy that, as a kid, did one hell of a lot of
copper wire recycling------that's how I made my money-------------------
For someone that claims to be recycling copper on a daily basis, you don't
appear to know much about copper. *ANY* copper wire that is used for
electrical purposes is electrolytically refined copper. It must have
excellent electrical properties in order to be used, and also to be drawn
successfully. It is by the electrolytic refining that copper attains that
level of quality. It's also necessary for the refinery, for copper, as
extracted from ores, is typically the carrier of other elements, many of
which are valuable (gold, silver, platinum, palladium, etc.) and it is in
the electrolytic process that they are recovered. It would be absurd, at
best, to assume that copper wire isn't pure, unless it is alloyed to
specifics for a given purpose.
If, in the process of making connections, the copper has tinned ends, the
copper is used in the brass industry for alloying to their specifications,
so the recycling market still has a keen interest in buying it. There
is *always* a market for recycled copper, it is never worthless as you
suggest. If you're not getting paid near market price, it's your own
shortcoming that is preventing you from doing so. You're being taken for a
ride and don't know it. Maybe you need to step up to the plate and get an
If you have anything in the way of links to lead me to information contrary
to this, feel free to provide them. I'm not interested in your opinion.
You've already shown us that you don't have a grasp on reality and don't
know what the hell you're talking about.
You sure spent a lot of time trying to convince me you don't knwo what I am
You obviously know nothing about scrap metals. The purity of the copper is
not related to the price. It is the purity of the mix. Copper with anything
mixed in with it or bonded to it is classed as "mixed copper". You may have
to pay the scrapper to haul it away.
Is there some particular reason you can't use the UPS as it was
origionally intended? I bought a 14 kva unit on Ebay for $41 and after
$125 for new batteries have unit powering my electronic assembly
pick-and place machine at 230 VAC. I can pull the plug and the machine
just keeps on running.
If it only lacks batteries, it is worth at least $50.
The input/output are changed by internal wiring plus software
Just wondering, Paul
1) I have enough UPSes and a few to spare, already (made 2,500 on a
$45 lot of 28 UPSes and kept a few cosmetically bad ones)
2) This thing is a monstrosity.
3) It is missing the front control panel, likely unrepairable
I am mystified as to how they manage to put the windings on Toroids.
The Copper wire can be used as Grounding but you must check the
diameter required against the load it is intened to Ground, this can be
achieved by twisting many strands of it together of course (as with any
other type of wire).
As for getting the wire off a laminated transformer in one peice, whew?
Most of my component stock is derrived from this sort of venture and
that odd screw is very usefull to have around if you need one!
Ok, you seem to have made the right decision. I am trying to remember
what the transformer looks like. Is it a toroid or a regular
rectangular shape. I think the transformer on my big unit is a toroid.
I don't know what the core material is. Could be ferrite. I know there
was a bunch of tapped windings.
Are you in an area where you could throw it on a trash fire and burn
out all the insulation. Then you could see what is there. I used to do
this when I lived in Portland, OR and had a wood furnace. Still have
some BIG copper strap from a burned out transformer.
A lot of that stuff is very carcinogenic when burned. The plastic coating on
much of the wire causes great danger to living things when burned. Egg
shells become very thin when the bird has been exposed to the burnt
chemicals, so they break during nesting.
Please don't burn insulated wire or plastic. It's disgusting stuff AND now
illegal in many places.
He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in
wet copper armour shouting "All the Gods are bastards."
This is Turtle.
i , first before starting to take apart this transformer contact your Medical
insurance company and add on a Cancer Policy for you and the family members for
your may need it if you spill any of this liquid at your house or on you. The
transformer oil in not cancer causing stuff till it is used over a year or so
and then it become PCB . the stuff is activated by the electricity going through
it and become a Cancer causing stuff after they have been used. Now here is a
chance to get rid of a unwanted Brother in law or kind folks by just getting
them to take it apart and get the oil on them. In Short order your in the class
of getting cancer soon.
So if you interested in keeping your family safe and not have cancer. You need
to have it hauled off to the Power company work station and dump it out when
they are not looking and they have the means to dispose of it properly. There
maybe $30 or $40 of copper in it but having Cancer will wipe out that profit
i , DON"T TOUCH THAT STUFF AND GET RID OF IT.
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