My brother bought a 1965 Valliant back around 1970 or 1971.. 4 door
sedan, automatic trans, 225 slant six - a real "ceam puff" with low
mileage - somewhere around 65000 miles as I recall, but the valves
were just a bit noisy so he decided I should adjust the valves for
him. When we got the valve cover bolts removed it took a rubber mallet
to get the rocker cover off, and you could hardly find the rockers and
valve springs for all the crud in there. It looked like the only oil
change it had ever had was the one done just before my brother bought
it. We scraped out as much crud as we could, then washed it down with
kerosene and I adjusted the valves. We changed the oil before he left,
but in hindsight we should likely have run it for about 20 minutes and
changed it again (and mabee even run it with kerosene in the crankcase
for a short while). He didn't make the 10 mles home before the oil
light came on and the engine made a very large rattle. When I pulled
the motor out the next week, the oil pickup screen was totally plugged
with crud that had washed down from the rocker area.. Not too much
Found out ONE thing that could kill a slant six - - -.
firstname.lastname@example.org posted for all of us...
I had one where I ran out of coolant because of a blown lower hose, (you
don't want to know the story). I repaired it and found the block was
cracked. Never leaked, gave it to a destitute friend and he put another 150k
on it before crashing it.
That wasn't all she did wrong. How was the oil light on?
My buddy ran a 65 mopar 50k on factory oil and the problem was stuck
After a few tries with mouse milk he paid a guy to pull the lifters
out and clean them. OK after that.
On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:30:51 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Actually there IS a product sold with the brand "mouse milk" - it is
a very fine penetrant that seems to be known only to aircraft
mechanics. I don't know the manudacturer offhand but I'll try to look
It is available from Aircraft Spruce.
Also see www.mousemilk.com
You can buy it from Anazon
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
It appears to be an unusual penetrating oil that is not effected by
heat. "Mouse Milk Oil is Recommended by AiResearch, Continental,
Lycoming, Beechcraft, and Cessna for use in freeing turbine waste gate
From their advertising::
"Mouse Milk Penetrating Oil. Muscle in a hustle... for speedy help in
the removal of rusted and frozen studs. MOUSE MILK frees up cables,
slides, linkages and bolts. MOUSE MILK is unequalled wherever a
lubricant or penetrant is required.
MOUSE MILK will dissolve rust, relieve friction and resist oxidation.
MOUSE MILK has amazing creeping ability. Frozen nuts and bolts can be
easily loosened and removed after allowing MOUSE MILK to creep down
the threads and break up the rust and corrosion"
It's a bit over a buck an ounce in US funds - so definitely not cheap.
AFAIK all the current commercial motor oils are processed crude as noted
but I'd say it's more than a "just slightly" different process.
There are fully-synthetic oils purposes but they're far more expensive
Pennzoil Pure Platinum Plus is made from natural gas. Most of the other
synthetic oils are made from a blend of conventional and very refined oils.
Castrol was sued by Mobil for false advertisement for their blends but the
judge sided with Castrol.
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 22:01:55 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
All oils sold as "full synthetics" are made from reconstituted
petroleum hydrocarbons of one sort or another except for the recent
"green" product made of reconstituted vegatable oil.
The feed stock is broken down to it's molecular level and then
recombined to form a consistent (engineered) product.
There are also higher end POA ans Estter synthetic lubricants
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 17:56:04 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I always thought they were mad without any petroleum. I sort of had the
idea they were made from all vegetable oils, or other plant products.
Guess I was wrong!
How can oil be made from natural gas? I cant picture that!
Please explain what this means.
POA is a type of horse. (Pony of America)
Estter is a day when everyone dyes eggs and goes to church (but spelled
On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:51:48 AM UTC-6, email@example.com wrote:
In chemistry, esters are chemical compounds derived from an acid (organic or inorganic) in which at least one -OH (hydroxyl) group is replaced by an -O-alkyl (alkoxy) group. Usually, esters are derived from a carboxylic acid and an alcohol.
I would assume petroleum oil additives...for POA?
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 03:50:12 -0600, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Natural gas is just VERY LOW VISCOSITY oil. Made of the same building
blocks but arranged differently. Making synthetic oil is just piling
specific blocks in a particular pattern when you get fown to the
basics - and it doesn't matter where the blocks come from or how they
were piled before.
Sorry, it's Pao and is short for Polyalphaolefins
PAG is polyalkylene Glycol,
POE is Polyolester , AKA Ester oil. (sorry I mis-spelled that one
On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
I was at the BMW parts counter few weeks ago. Fellow came in to get
their BMW branded oil, $9 a quart. Mobil one costs me about half that
and works for me. There is a difference between synthetic and conventional.
Synthetic allows for a longer change interval, BMW for example is at 10K
now, they have been as high as 15K a few years ago. I change it at about
8K. Beyond the difference between synthetic and dino, I agree that
obsessing over it is nuts. Like you say, all the cars I've ever had,
not one met it's demise through anything that could be related to oil.
Now if you put dino oil in it and run it for 50K miles, that could be
a different story.
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