Stick a fork in Roundup... (2025 Update)

You can't confuse a consumer operation like Costco with commercial operations like Lesco or even a retailer like Rural King. I doubt Roundup was 0.001% of Costco's business. They are basically a toilet paper company that sells other stuff. (paper products are their biggest seller and the highest profit item) Glyphosate may diminish as a consumer product but I doubt it ever goes away commercially and the replacement will be found to as bad or worse in a decade or two. Right now everyone is looking at one jury in California but even if this survives an appeal, the 9th circuit is the most overturned federal court in the US.

Dichlorvos did here, used to stop termites from eating the house out. But it stopped being available because it was banned by govt.

Didn't happen with dichlorvos. But the replacements don't work anything like as well.

That is correct and here is latest approval from EPA:

And now you speak for the science of pesticides? How could you possibly know what new pesticide will become available in the future?

We've been looking for one for getting on for 50 f****ng years now, ever since we noticed the downsides with dichlorvos, f****it child.

Same with DDT, for even longer f****it child,

Just checked and it is listed as a carcinogen on California's Proposition 65 list based on IARC pronouncement. Some have exposure levels that are practically immeasurable. When ever I make a safety data sheet I will list a chemical used to make up the product on Prop.

Well maybe those kangaroo humpers over there just aren't very smart, like you.

Do you know as much about pesticides as you do about all this:

How can one dope be wrong on so many things?

The 737 MCAS doesn't rely on just one AOA sensor (It does)

The FAA would never approve that design (They did)

The data from the FDR on Lion Air has not been released (It was in Oct/Nov)

Boeing doesn't know what caused the Lion Air Crash

The 737 can't be trimmed mechanically (It can)

It's impossible to have a design where it's both electrical or mechanical trim (BS because all 737s and most other planes have both)

The Cessna 150 can't stall (It can, stall speeds are listed by Cessna)

Denies that it's common for FAA to put out directives soon after a crash, requiring inspection of what they believe caused the problem in all similar planes in service. (Of course it's common)

The AOA sensors were a known problem with the 737 Max and were already being replaced at the time of Lion Air crash (total lie)

The FAA didn't ground the 737 Max, Boeing did. (Trump announced the FAA grounding we have it on video)

Pilots are required by law to read the manual in an emergency, before taking action. (speaks for itself)

You have a 50" CRT TV (posted lame pic of a much smaller TV, no tape measure, no model, nothing to verify it

Electric pole transformers can glow orange hot, it's not uncommon (Still waiting for the pics of some of those)

Former leaders have no say in the details of their state funeral (beyond stupid)

The tax rate on capital gains was 93% after WWII (It was more like ~45% max and in the 50s was reduced to just 25%)

No one was buying US manufactured goods just after WWII. (ie the US didn't have a huge advantage as a manufacturing economy with much of the rest of the world destroyed following WWII. Obviously more total lies and stupidity)

Investment isn't for capital gain.

Then you wont have any difficulty listing all those countrys buying US manufactured goods just after the war had ended. (implying that the US wasn't exporting manufactured goods after WWII, as much of the rest of the world was in rubble and rebuilding)

Digital Equipment Stock DEC, was never sold for a capital gain.

The 911 terrorists didn't need flight training, anyone can fly a 767, just use a PC simulator to learn.

you don’t even know that there even was a doctor involved with Obama's birth certificate. (it's signed by Dr. David Sinclair)

No doctor signs the birth certificate, f****it.

Hardly any presidents have one term. (Ford, Carter, Bush 41,

President Trump invited himself to visit the UK

NYC still dumps all it's trash in the ocean

There isn't enough glass from recycling to use it for concrete

The Autobahn, a highway, is an example of socialism.

The financial crisis in 2008/09 was not caused by bad loans.

We have no idea how many companies Trump has (it's 500+ from his disclosure)

Trump has one company.

What a total moron!

I might not put the farm on BAYRY but I think it is a buy at some price, Maybe $10?, 8? We never saw that Boeing crash. I still have a buy in at $300 and another at $250 but neither are likely to ever trade. I might throw one in for BAYRY at $8 just as a hoot.

Some drug crazed drunken terminal f****it desperately cowering behind trader_4 snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament as it always does when its got done like at f****ng dinner, as it always is, and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

For humans and most animals, sure.

It was always going to f*ck some bird eggs because of the chemistry. That's its major downside.

Bullshit, particularly in the third world were that isnt even possible.

Nope, the problem with DDT is the way it has to be used to get the result you want, particularly in the third world.

That wasn't the problem with DDT, it has to be used the way it was used otherwise you end up with insecticide resistance.

That was never the problem. It got that effect on bird egg shells and there is no way to avoid that and nothing else is anything like as effective.

And it has to be used that way to work.

I don't know if it's any better but the diquat I used last week around the places I don't feel like weed whacking seems to have been effective.

I sure hope I don't have a senior moment and mix up the diquat with the

The counter argument to that is Monsanto didn't say it was a powerful chemical and still does not. The label says something to the effect that it causes moderate eye irritation and if you get it on you, wash it off. Whether it can cause cancer, idk, you'd have to wade through all the research. Many agencies around the world, including epa have and only the WHO says yes. The standout data I have seen is the fact that the rate of the cancer is down over the last 40 years, while RU use skyrocketed and the long-term study of tens of thousands of farmers found no elevated cancer. That looks very compelling to me. If it's causing cancer, it must be a rate that's in the noise level. It's not like asbestos.

As usual, I was thinking the same thing, but didn't post it. I've been on jury duty twice and didn't try to get out of it. First time I wound up on a criminal case, second time I didn't make it. I was surprised at how large the selection pool was. I think it was like 60 people. They were tossing one after another, for one reason or another, but they managed to fill it without getting to me. At that point, not sure how I felt. I had spent a couple days, think I had to spend one more day there anyway. Probably would have enjoyed getting on actually, instead of spending two or three days and not doing anything.

People with knowledge of the business or science are normally excused by the lawyers. It happened to me and also a fellow chemist.

I've been called four times but only served once. It was a very worthwhile experience and I learned a lot from it.

Had to look that up. There is about as much kikuyu grass in northern Montana as two legged Kikuyus. No kudzu, either, just dandelions and the odd bull thistle. It's pissing in into the wind since most of my neighbors run dandelion seed farms. At least I can eat some ofthe damn things in the spring.

everyone should know their rights

I even question the problems with asbestos. Certainly if you worked in a brake shoe factory with no respiratory protection it was very dangerous but if you just had asbestos shingles on your house and you were not sawing them up, I don't see the danger. I also see little danger once it gets mixed with dirt in a land fill. People act like this is plutonium.

Define "honor". Anyone who questions the motives of lawyers will be tossed in jury selection.