Share our blessings

[Higgs Boson]

This is to wish all the good people on this NG Happy Holidays and a New Year of peace, health and prosperity.

At this holiday seasons, let us share our blessings with poor Bradley Manning, who is still in a Navy brig under inhuman -- read: "torture" conditions. He needs to hear from us. That our government can be so spiteful and do illegal things to people is no news, but what they're doing to this kid is beyond all limits. We must stand up for the rule of law!

He is being kept -- falsely -- under a "Prevention of Injury" rule. He is not a dangerous to himself; that is a slimy pretext. He can't get a night's sleep; they wake him every 5 minutes. He has NO exercise time. No pillow, no blanket. In solitary for the last few months. Cannot receive visitors. Has no reading matter. He is deteriorating mentally and physically. The govt's objective is to break him so he will turn on WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

Please go to and add your support.

****Not because you agree or disagree with WikiLeaks and Bradley Manning.**** That's not the point.

But because what is being done to this boy by our government is ILLEGAL. Our silence is complicity. What if it was your son?

Thank you for acting!

HP

HP

[The Daring Dufas]

I totally agree with you that Bradly Manning should not be tortured and kept confined in inhumane conditions. The only humane thing to do, is to go ahead and execute him for treason as soon as possible.

TDD

[Molly Brown]

They should put the officer(s) that were in charge of him in the same brig.

[Higgs Boson]

He didn't commit treason.

[Higgs Boson]

But the eyewitness who posts on the Web site does.

[Ed Pawlowski]

? "Higgs Boson" wrote

Seems as though the boy did something wrong and he is being punished for it. If prison was tougher, people would be less inclined to break the law. . He does have limited TV viewing. Considering some of the shows on TV these days, maybe that is cruel.

[Colbyt]

< The govt's objective is to

And what is so wrong with that. His best hope for any leniency is to roll over and relax.

The Boy was not in the girl scouts. He was in the military and will most likely spend a lot time regretting his actions over the next 30-40 years in the brig.

I don't think you will find much sympathy in this group.

[The Daring Dufas]

You are referring to the soldier who removed classified material from his workplace and gave it to WikiLeaks?

TDD

[Patrick Karl]

Amen, bro.

[Patrick Karl]

I know it'd be a bother, but don't you think we ought to convict him of something first?

[Patrick Karl]

As I understand it, we're talking about someone who hasn't been convicted of anything. So how do you know he did anything wrong?

Should we just throw everybody into cruel prison and see who survives?

[The Daring Dufas]

Oh, I'm sorry, I "Left" that out. (no pun intended) :-)

TDD

[Patrick Karl]

What actions have he been convicted of?

[Patrick Karl]

Shoot first and ask questions later?

[The Daring Dufas]

I can guarantee you that if were accused of a crime, I would be imprisoned under less than ideal conditions even though I hadn't been convicted of anything. :-)

TDD

[The Daring Dufas]

What? You don't believe in deterrents or preventive measures.? :-)

TDD

[Ed Pawlowski]

? "Patrick Karl" wrote

He'll have his day in court. Meantime, he is put away the same as thousands of others have been. Don't like it? Change the system.

[Kurt Ullman]

Making him watch TV would be cruel punishment. Given his probable political outlook I'd sentence him to watching Fox News 24-7. For others, MSNBC. (grin).

[cshenk]

"Patrick Karl" wrote

Don't act the child. He was Military, not a civilian. We are WELL briefed on what that means before we sign up including the legal handling of infractions. He'd have had numerous other briefings on handling of classified information as well.

He's probably still restricted to protect his ass from the other prisioners. We don't suffer traitors very well.

[Patrick Karl]

I was in the military. Don't remember much training about the military justice system at the level of detail you're implying.

You do understand that until he's convicted we don't know whether he is a traitor or not. The treatment he's receiving amounts to cruel and unusual punishment, especially insofar as he hasn't been shown to be guilty of anything. Couldn't we please wait till after the trial to begin pulling his fingernails out?