Thanks for the replies everyone!
The actual intent of the thermostat is to benefit my grandfather's
health. They have central air conditioning and he does not understand
that if he turns the system off, it takes all day to cool the house
again. He is suffering from a few health problems that go along with
his age (90), and we would like to keep the house climate as controlled
as possible since the heat definitely causes him problems.
I've searched a little more and will be checking the link or 2 posted
above. I've seen a few secure thermostats that range from about ~$80
to ~$300 so without a little more research, I'm not sure what we'll
decide on just yet.
P.S. it's not a *drastic* problem, it's just that when he messes with
the thermostat letting the house get up to 90, he's more or less
jeopardizing his health.
My concern is being able to set the thermostat to a temperature that is
comfortable to me. If you are paying for utilities, and try locking the
thermostat, we are going to have problems.
If the temperature is too high, You are going to end up heating the
outdoors as I open windows to cool off. If it is too low (and we are not
talking 75+), you are going to be paying for the power to run the space
heaters necessary to keep the environment at a comfortable temperature.
Either way, you are going to be paying more than if you simply allowed me
to control my own environment.
For what it's worth, I tend to set my thermostat slightly lower than a lot of
people, and I like to turn it down when I go to bed. I have been in a
number of places where the temperature was set too high, and where it was
uncomfortably warm as a result. Paying to live in an environment that is
uncomfortable to me because the landlord won't allow me to control the
temperature is simply unacceptable, and grounds for complaint, and possible
No, I don't like frost on the floor when I wake up, but nor do I like
sweating in bed because the room is too warm.
For the record, I do rent, and I pay the utility bill, and for most of the
year, we simply turn the furnace off, as it is not necessary. We don't
have A/C, so we open windows if it gets too warm.
It sounds like you do not have good relations with your tenants, and are
acting like a control freak as a result. I would suggest that good
communications might work better. If you implement draconian measures without
proper communication, do not be surprised when the tenants defeat those
measures, especially if they are unreasonable in the first place.
Note that there are ways of adding additional thermostats to act as limit
switches to limit minimum and maximum temperature, but those limits need to
be set to reasonable settings sufficient to prevent property damage,
or excessive energy use, without excessively limiting the tenants control
of their environment.
If you are offering to pay utilities as part of the rental contract, you
need to be willing to accept that some people like to live in different
environments than others, which means that some people are going to want
to set the thermostat higher than others. Setting the thermostat to the
absolute minumum is not what I consider to be a friendly action. If you
have problems with people heating the space to 95 degrees, install a
limiting sensor to restrict it to 75, or renegotiate the rental contract,
and have the tenant pay for their own utilities.
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And if I don't set it to the right minimum temp I get in trouble with the
It'setup that each apartment pays their own electricity. But there's only
one furnace, so you would pay us to supply thr hrat.
There's a setting for day and night.
You'd lose in my jurisdiction.
Actually, wen we rented we were on the low side of the rent scale. But
tenants like to take advantage of you...late payment, no payment, bringing
in extra apartment dwellers, ruining walls, carpets, being loud, skipping
out, you name it. And that's before the whole lock situation. Maybe you
live in tenant eutopia, but this was in a bad neighborhood and no daily
That's a good one. If you could find them after they left without paying
www.white-rodgers.com They make several models that have a lockout
code. And I think there are 3 levels of security too like locked,
semi-locked, and unlocked. Also you can program it to turn fan on
continuously during certain time periods and work just with the heat or
a/c during others. different programming groups like 5+1+1, 5+2, and 7
days. Different program set for heat mode vs. ac mode. filter change
timer. I really dig this thing. I think it was ~$100, but you really
only buy such a thing once anyway...
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