I am getting ready to remodel a bath including replacing toilet because of
out dated color. I understand all toilets are the water saver type now, some
do a good job of flushing, some don't. Any advice on make and model
I highly recommend the Toto brand of toilets. I've installed two and
before I had to have plungers nearby. Now, I haven't used the plunger once
in 8 months. I cannot find the research paper that I read (online, got the
link from this group) but the Toto's clearly outperformed all others.
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:17:04 -0700, "James \\"Cubby\\" Culbertson"
Here's one link that covers the best of the breed.
The MAP report (PDF file) listed with the first Toto is a great
engineering analysis of toilet performance. For some reason it can't
be downloaded right now.
Oh, we have 3 Toto's. Wouldn't have any other brand. American
Standards are OK, but noisy. The Toto's are quiet. In the year since
they were installed, not once was a second flush required on any of
them. It is amazing to watch how they flush.
Unfortunately that's not the link I was thinking of. The research I
remember seeing tested about a 100 different toilets/brands
and gave the data behind them. Either way, the data still supported the
Toto as being most efficient/effective.
Check out Consumers Reports at your local library - they test a bunch
of models. Last test was August of 2005. I was looking myself
recently, and standouts were the Elger Titan ($350), Gerber Ultra Flush
21-312 ($275), and Eljer Aqua-Saver 091-7025 (CR Best Buy, $200).
Don't know about the price mentioned above - cheapest list price in
their test was $160. Hope this helps.
I just installed an Eljer Titan a few weeks ago. It and the Toto and some
American Standard models have a 3" outlet. Even with low water pressure one
push and the waste whooses out of there faster than you can blink! Make
sure you get a model with the larger outlet!
of flushing, some don't. Any advice on make and model appreciated.
That's an EXCELLENT choice! :)
When our home was built, I insisted on "elongated bowl" toilets for all three
bathrooms. After >14 years, I have appreciated that minor selection criteria.
It's all about the comfort of USING the thing.
With the American butt getting bigger every year, I can't imagine installing a
toilet, new or replacement, without its being an elongated model. They are
simply more comfortable to use.
Caveat: Those that place FORM over function should know that an elongated bowl
toilet significantly reduces the choices one has for a seat/lid/cover. That's
OK with me as there are enough models available of sturdy, functional and
color-coordinated ELONGATED seats/lids/covers for my needs.
Football FANATICS beware: You probably will NOT find a [your favorite sports
team logo]-theme toilet seat/lid/cover for an elongated bowl. Live with it.
The elongated bowl is worth the <sigh> SACRIFICE!
My toilets do their thing in one flush. They work so well, I may take them
with me if/when I move. Heck, they might even appear in my Will!
They are politically incorrect: They use more water.
I was LUCKY as my house was completed JUST BEFORE the low-flow requirement.
However, I do have trouble sleeping because of the guilt I feel over the water
I am wasting. After all, we all know that every flush of water disappears off
the face of the Earth. Gone forever. It's terrible. I can't stand it...
Just make sure you get one with a fully-glazed trap (2" or larger, IIRC)
and it should do a good job for you. The "Glacier Bay" one-piece toilet
I bought at Home Depot last year has done a great job. Much better than
the old 7-gallon-flusher it replaced. I got the one-piece kind because
it's easier to clean.
When low flush toilets first came out, they had problems, and they'd have to
be flushed several times, which defeated the purpose of saving water. A
plumber I know used to drive to Canada, and come back with a truck load of
the old style. Last year I asked him if he still drove up there, and he said
he no longer has to, because the newer low flush toilets don't have a
I am going to go against the majority, my next toilet will be from
canada, although I was recently told congress changed the law and
stores are permitted to sell 3 gallong flushers again here. seems they
finally realized that 2 low flow flushes used more water than a single
3 gallon one.
Dont get me wrong but I am tired of mucking with my toilet. some
peoples solid output is larger in diameter and harder than average
causing frequenbt plunging.
plus I DONT want noise, having a plunger sit by the toilet, overflows,
and all the other junk.
you can buy 3 gallon flushers on e bay, from canada. shipping is
costly. but so is replacing my kitchen cieling, ruined from years of
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