Re: OT. Omicron Beats J&J Vaccine

Dec 20, 2021 Last reply: 4 years ago 4 Replies
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>>>> snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote
>>>>> lkpo snipped-for-privacy@coldmail.com wrote
>>>>>> snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vaccination is about avoiding severe disease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the virus killing you, not infection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes , the new definition they came out with when their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clotshot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't prevent us from getting The Coof . I never caught
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases that I was vaccinated against while growing up ... >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And your parents wisely got you vaccinated so you would not. >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If more people got this one there would be less breakthrough
>>>>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Notice there is no vaccine for the common cold? Why is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> not been figured out yet but with Corona, they got 90% or so.
>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta call bullshit on that one Ed . The sources I'm reading say
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> the vaccinated are around 80% of new cases now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We note that you never share your "sources".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Watch something besides
>>>>>>>>>>> mainstream media for a different opinion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The case rates are not opinions, they are facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> "People who were unvaccinated had a greater risk of testing
>>>>>>>>>> positive
>>>>>>>>>> for COVID-19 and a greater risk of dying from COVID-19 than
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> were fully vaccinated (see below for the most recent rates).
>>>>>>>>>> Unvaccinated people in all age groups had higher case rates than
>>>>>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated people in the same age groups.
>>>>>>>>>> Vaccinated people age 12-17 years had the lowest case rates
>>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>>> with those in older age groups.
>>>>>>>>>> Unvaccinated people in all age groups had higher death rates than
>>>>>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated people in the same age groups.
>>>>>>>>>> Unvaccinated people ages 50 years and older had higher death
>>>>>>>>>> rates
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> those in younger age groups, with the highest rates among
>>>>>>>>>> unvaccinated
>>>>>>>>>> people ages 80 years and older.
>>>>>>>>>> Fully vaccinated people ages 80 years and older had higher death
>>>>>>>>>> rates
>>>>>>>>>> than vaccinated people in younger age groups.
>>>>>>>>>> Death rates among people aged 12-17 years are not shown on the
>>>>>>>>>> graph
>>>>>>>>>> due to low numbers of deaths from COVID-19 in this age group.
>>>>>>>>>> Case and death rates for people fully vaccinated with any of the
>>>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>> vaccine products (Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, Johnson & Johnson?s
>>>>>>>>>> Janssen) were much lower than for unvaccinated people." >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Old news
>>>>>>>>> More recent from Father Fauci 12/16/21
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Basically "get the booster but he can't imagine it will protect >>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> from infection".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seat belts and air bags can't prevent you from having an auto
>>>>>>>> accident
>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>> Any more disparagement of the vaccines you want to throw in? >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quoted Father Fauci.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But stupidly mangled infection and the avoidance of
>>>>>> severe disease and being killed by the virus, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Fauci says stupid s*it all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Says the fool that cant even manage to work
>>>> out the difference between infection, severe
>>>> disease and being killed by the virus.
>>>>
>>>>>>> That was NOT my opinion, only what I heard
>>>>>>> the oracle from Wisconsin Avenue say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact only heard what you wanted to hear from that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> How else do you "hear" "I can imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>> from initial infection"?
>>>>
>>>> Like I said. What matters is severe disease and being killed by the
>>>> virus and we know that the booster helps a hell of a lot with that
>>>> and Fauci has said that repeatedly and you stupidly focus on
>>>> infection which isn't what vaccination with this virus is about.
>>>    And it is actually pretty effective at preventing infection too..
>>> 35% isn't fantastic, but it's a heck of a lot better than nothing. >>>
>>
>>    But still not as good as natural immunity from having The Coof . >
> Wrong, as always.
>
>
>     The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released
> a report on Oct. 29, 2021, that says getting vaccinated for the
> coronavirus when you?ve already had COVID-19 significantly enhances your
> immune protection and further reduces your risk of reinfection.
>     A study published in August 2021 indicates that if you had COVID-19
> before and are not vaccinated, your risk of getting re-infected is more
> than two times higher than for those who got vaccinated after having > COVID-19.
>     Another study published on Nov. 5, 2021, by the U.S. Centers for
> Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) looked at adults hospitalized for
> COVID-like sickness between January and September 2021. This study found
> that the chances of these adults testing positive for COVID-19 were 5.49
> times higher in unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 in the past than
> they were for those who had been vaccinated for COVID and had not had an
> infection before.
>     A study from the CDC in September 2021 showed that roughly
> one-third of those with COVID-19 cases in the study had no apparent
> natural immunity.
>
>     The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released
> a report on Oct. 29, 2021, that says getting vaccinated for the
> coronavirus when you?ve already had COVID-19 significantly enhances your
> immune protection and further reduces your risk of reinfection.
>     A study published in August 2021 indicates that if you had COVID-19
> before and are not vaccinated, your risk of getting re-infected is more
> than two times higher than for those who got vaccinated after having > COVID-19.
>     Another study published on Nov. 5, 2021, by the U.S. Centers for
> Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) looked at adults hospitalized for
> COVID-like sickness between January and September 2021. This study found
> that the chances of these adults testing positive for COVID-19 were 5.49
> times higher in unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 in the past than
> they were for those who had been vaccinated for COVID and had not had an
> infection before.
>     A study from the CDC in September 2021 showed that roughly
> one-third of those with COVID-19 cases in the study had no apparent
> natural immunity.
>

Links to every one of those studies or you're lying .


LOL!

It is too bad you are incapable of doing any thoughtful research on your own.

Anyone else can find then in no time.

What's posted on the CDC website he doesn't believe, but I bet anything and everything that comes from the right wing nuts, the radio talk shows, Alex Jones, etc, all that he eagerly accepts as the truth. And there is plenty of it there, they spend most of their time spewing forth lies and BS today. A few weeks ago, Hannity had on a doctor who he let go on for a good fifteen minutes. The outright lies that doctor told included:

The vaccines created the Delta variant. (the rest of us know it originated in India in late spring, in a country with a very low vaccination rate)

He said that if you went into hospitals you would find that Covid patients are not 90% unvaccinated, it's actually the other way around.

Then he talked up natural immunity, hydroxy and ivermectin.

Hannity didn't say a word to object to or question any of it. Hannity and the rest are killing people, they have their blood on their hands. And then that POS says once a day, "I'm not telling anyone what do to, I'm not a doctor".

That's not the point Bob . You quoted them , which means that you already have the links - you DO have them don't you? - and should provide your sources . I mean , it's not like you're a "journalist" ...

Bob,

I have yet to see you post a single medical journal. I even gave you a link to pub med, where you an find them.

Your idea of "thoughtful research" is opinion pieces so far. Fix your research before criticizing Snag.

-T

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