Re: Another Mask Study

Nov 15, 2020 Last reply: 5 years ago 19 Replies
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>> "Withdrawal The authors have withdrawn this manuscript because there are
>> increased rates of SARS- CoV-2 cases in the areas that we originally
>> analyzed in this study. New analyses in the context of the third surge
>> in the United States are therefore needed and will be undertaken
>> directly in conjunction with the creators of the publicly-available
>> databases on cases, hospitalizations, testing rates. Etc. We will be
>> performing this in conjunction with machine learning experts at UCSF.
>> Therefore, the authors do not wish this work to be cited as reference
>> for the project. We hope to have an updated analysis using data from the
>> 2nd and now 3rd wave of SARS-CoV-2 in this country soon. If you have any
>> questions, please contact the corresponding author."
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>> "The study, published on October 23 on the medical site medRxiv, had
>> alleged that hospitalizations for COVID-19 decreased in 1,083 US
>> counties after lawmakers passed mask mandates."
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>> This county had a mask mandate and closures prior to the statewide
>> mandate going into effect. Further county restriction were imposed on >> Cot 27.
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>> Next idea?  fwiw, this is a bright blue county and people do wear masks,
>> distance, and so forth unlike some of the neighboring red counties. >
>Is it increasing as fast as non-mask counties?

I bet if they actually took mask use in isolation, detached from lock downs, closures and other virus fighting methods, the results would be less than convincing.

Simple demo of how masks work

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Pretty convincing but don't bother me with facts.

Try this: Do masks work?

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Simple but not science. Places with mask mandates and all other things being equal are having spikes just like everyone else. If masks worked, we could go sit in crowded bleachers at a hockey game. Would you do that?

If everyone was wearing a mask, would you go to a sold out hockey game?

From what I see in short video masks retard but not completely. Maybe fine if combined with distancing but would not want to sit in a closely packed crowd or airplane.

The problem with mask mandates is that not everyone follow them. While this is not science, it is common sense that a mask knocks it down. Nothing is perfect but go with the best you can.

As for crowded bleachers, no, not yet. Sparse bleachers, yes, been there.

It really depends on which day and which "science" you want to believe. Aerosols sort of make all of that moot since they might hang in the air for hours and be spread by the HVAC system. The stuff you can see will fall out of the air pretty fast.

What a crappy study.

Here is some ACTUAL research:

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Hint: aerosols go right through, despite any politically correct axioms

But the advantage is that some will, and the more who do, the more even the recalcitrant ones will feel strange if they don't. They are, after all, devoted followers. That's what trumpies are and if trump recedes even a bit, even in comparison to others, and most people are wearing masks, so will the trumpies. Even now some have figured out it might save lives to do so.

Always question on how much exposure is necessary to initiate infection. I would assume as in the case of poisons that there must be some dose relationship.

You don't know much about human nature, do you? It's not all about Trump.

What nobody is saying is in places like Michigan where the governor made her own draconian rules they are having a worse spike than places like Florida where the rules were more relaxed.

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Watch the scale. These charts are deceiving. (Mich 0-80%, Fla 0-18%) No bias there. ;-)

Remember the discussion about Kansas? I suppose not, since it doesn't align with your ignorant views.

We're 10 months into this thing and you're still spouting the same ignorant crap. Amazing. It's not that masks "work" or "don't work", they simply

*HELP* to slow the spread. You know that but for some reason you pretend to forget. Who knows why.

Pharmacies are open. Mine had plenty of masks. So does Amazon. You had months to get one. There is no excuse today.

We flattened the Fauci curve so it's time to put on your man-pants, take off your mask and let 'er rip.

The Astraweb troll tries out a new nym.

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