Pipe sound from TV to my radio

[AK]

I want to hear sound from my Tv using my standalone radio.

All the TV output HDMIs are being used.

My inputs on my radio for TV/Dbs are coaxial.

What parts do I need?

Thanks.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I have three TVs and all have output for RCA jacks. You don't have that? Perhaps a cheap soundbar would be better than using the radio.

[AK]

I did find some RCA jacks on the bottom back of the TV.

Andy

[Peter]

Yeah, but are they for an auxiliary tv input, usually a composite video (yellow) RCA and red+black or red+white rca stereo analog audio input? They won't help you solve your problem if they are input jacks.

[AK]

Bummer.

[AK]

Tv is a westinghouse dwm42f2g1. Radio is Denon AVR 1801.

[Peter]

Hey Andy (AKA "AK"), if the information in the link immediately above for your TV is correct, and the information in the following link for your Denon is also correct, the TV has a digital coax audio output and the Denon has a digital coax audio input. Seems as though all you need is a flashlight to find the correct jacks, and a connecting cable. No adapter should be needed. see:

[AK]

Thanks for your help.

I checked my manual.

I found an audio in with left and right inputs.

But no audio out that I could find. Here is a pic of the back of my TV.

Andy

[AK]

I found the headphone jack.

I do not have a cable yet for the headphone jack.

I did find a TOS cable and connected it to TV and the Radio. Opt1

I tried to use the manual to configure it to use the TOS connection.

The manual is poorly written and I had no luck.

Andy

[Peter]

Andy, Interesting that the image you provide doesn't correspond to the back of the TV images at the top of the consumer reports web page which is supposedly for the same TV (see reference 1). I'd take a very careful look at the sides and back of your physical TV and not rely totally on the manual. Sometimes the manufacturers are sloppy about correctly matching the included manual with included TV.

My previous comment was based on what I saw in the 4th picture from the left at the top of the page of the consumers report web page, which clearly shows an RCA jack labeled "coaxial" just to the right of the headphone logo. Oh well. Your image does show a TOSlink jack which is probably an output jack. The descriptive text for that jack (#2 in your image) is not visible in the image you provided but probably says if it's an input or an output. (I've got 3 tvs of differing ages, from 3 different manufacturers. All have a single TOSlink jack. All 3 provide audio output.) Because the Denon (reference 2) has 2 TOSlink input jacks (labeled OPT-1 and OPT-2), you should be good to connect the tv to the Denon with just a fiber optic cable with a TOSlink plug at both ends.

References:

[AK]

I was wanting to hear Amazon prime shows in stereo with my 6 speaker system.

It is not a big deal to listen thru the TV speakers.

Right now I am frustrated. The Denon manual gets no awards either.

I will probably retry in a week or so. :-)

I am able to hear great sound from by Blu Ray player. :-)

Andy

[AK]

I tried doing it, but could not accomplish it.

Andy

[Peter]

Andy,

Are all of us who have tried to help you dealing with the correct model TV? Can you verify that your TV is a Westinghouse DWM42F2G1? Don't look at which model is mentioned on the owner's manual. Look at the model plate on the TV itself, usually on the back of the TV.

I downloaded the manual for that model from 6 different country web sites/languages thinking that there might be differences in the details of models in different countries. However, all the manuals describe and illustrate the same thing. I tried US, UK, Canada, France, Spain, and New Zealand web sites. All the manuals for that model sold in all those areas illustrate and describe a coax digital audio output jack and no TOSlink jack. I don't deny that the image you posted clearly shows a TOSlink jack.

However, I can't explain the discrepancy in output jacks. Therefore, I'm not sure that trying to help you step by step based on the manuals I found will correspond to what you see on your TV's setup screen.

I'm willing to help you navigate a manual you find confusing, but need to find a manual that corresponds to your TV.

[Retirednoguilt]

Andy,

That actually was a big help to those of us who are trying to help. You previously stated that you were able to pipe audio from your Blue Ray to your Denon. Hope that's a TOSlink connection! It will make things easier because we know you have properly configured one of the Denon's TOSlink inputs to accept and process signals. It tells me that your problem is configuring the TV's digital output. Suggest you temporarily pretend you're using the Blue Ray player and select the Blue Ray player as the input source on your Denon but don't turn on the Blue Ray player. Instead, disconnect the TOSlink cable from the Blue Ray player and plug it into the TOSLink jack on your TV. Now, when you try to configure the TV to activate its digital audio output, you'll know when you've succeeded. Just make sure you don't accidentally have the TV muted or the volume control for the TV turned all the way down. Obviously you'll also need to make sure that you've turned on both the Denon and the TV.

If you're still hearing audio output on the TV's speakers when watching the TV, you probably still have the digital audio output option set at "OFF" in the TV's audio settings menu. You may not know that you need to select the "PCM" option when setting the TV's digital audio output options to use the TOSLink jack with an external audio system. Also, make sure you properly exit the TV's remote setting menu otherwise any changed setting won't be saved. Usually it's safe to either back out with repeated pushes of the remote's MENU button, or a single push of the remote's EXIT button.

Don't give up. It just takes patience, time, and keeping track of exactly what you've already tried so you don't end up going in circles.

[Mark Lloyd]

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Optical should be an audio output. What does your manual say about it?

BTW, Optical is the only output my TV has too.

[Mark Lloyd]

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I've found a lot of manuals to contain very little useful information. The seem to be designed for people who are afraid of the equipment, rather than those who want to find out about it.

[Peter]

In my experience, most manuals especially for home electronics, appear to be written by technical experts whose first language is not English. The author(s) seem to have no insight about the absence of technical knowledge and related abbreviations and acronyms of the typical users. Too much background knowledge is taken for granted and the text is usually not organized logically and often filled with ambiguities and undefined acronyms. No wonder most users ignore the manual (if it is even included in the packaging).

[Marilyn Manson]

For what's it worth, many (most? all?) TV's are configured such that muting the TV's speaker or turning the volume down does not impact the TOSlink output. My Samsung is like that. The TOSlink output is set to a fixed volume and the volume is controlled at the device it's talking to.

[Mark Lloyd]

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I know mine is like that. I keep the TV volume on 0 (not muted, as that shows an icon on the screen).

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