Pay It Forward

I've never taken money for this sort of thing, and when offered it for help I've always refused and given some variation on the "pay it forward" spiel -- I couldn't imagine doing anything else.

I've never had an opportunity to help out as much as that farmer, although I've come close -- but I've gotten that much help myself (a spun trailer wheel bearing in Boise, on a Saturday evening, when I was barely

You are so, so true. I've also found that, in my own life. I can't remember off hand which Bible writer quote "who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword", but that's also profound.

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A VERY frequent saying of mine:

What goes around, comes around...eventually - GOOD AND BAD.

The proverb comes from the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, which describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:

Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)

Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put up thy sword" Jews had it right?

Many examples of Mormons being driven out by mobs, and not firing back.

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The proverb comes from the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, which describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:

Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)

On 4/3/2012 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put > up thy sword" Jews had it right? >

Yep. It's one of the things I've always admired in them.

Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:22 (NIV)

Which them? Ghetto resistance, or the Mormon lack of resistance?

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On 4/3/2012 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put > up thy sword" Jews had it right? >

Yep. It's one of the things I've always admired in them.

Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:22 (NIV)

On 4/3/2012 9:41 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Which them? Ghetto resistance, or the Mormon lack of resistance? >

Let me ask you, Christopher? What would Jesus do?

Didn't answer the question.

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Let me ask you, Christopher? What would Jesus do?

And I'll never catch in paying off things that people have done for me.

Except the Mountain Meadows Massacre when the Mormons did the killing.

You also need to be mindful of the person trying to "sow a seed", and if you refuse they may feel like they missed their opportunity to sow a seed.

If they insist, I take a minimum amount to not deny them their sowed seed.

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising held out longer against the Germans than Poland itself.

The Warsaw Jews died, in the end. But, some what later date, and with a bit of dignity. Having done all they could. And, are remembered by later generations.

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The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising held out longer against the Germans than Poland itself.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote

The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was resistance to a well-organized foreign invader that had bigger problems elsewhere.

We are more likely to suffer from the failure of an ineffective government like Louisiana's.

If they insist, I suggest a few dollars for gasoline. I used to limit it to two dollars, but I was working and didn't need their money. On the other hand, they wouldn't have offered, if they didn't want to and I didn't want to offend them.

I've only made one exception. An very nice older lady who lived across the street insisted that I take $50 when I was moving out of state, and told me that she would never forgive me if I didn't take it. Then she started crying and told me that I was one of a very few who took the time to visit her and her husband while he was dying of cancer. She said that he had dozens of relatives living in the same town, but all were 'too busy' to come see him before he died. He was a Veteran, and I enjoyed comparing his W.W.II and my Vietnam era experiences so I tried to stop by for a half hour, a couple times a week for his last six months.

If someone hasn't experienced the feeling you get from helping people in need...you "need" to try it.

I promise you will be rewarded in some way...even if you don't "believe"!

Arf arf. In your rich fantasy life you can find jobs for meth heads! But in the real world you can't find a job for yourself.... for decades. The story could have been funnier though. How about next time you write that your intervention caused the meth heads to pay back a lifetime of deliquent taxes and mooched medical care.

That was really cool of you.

Thank you. It's sad that some people 'don't have time' to drive a couple miles to see a close relative.