OT More hypocracy from the USA

[harryagain]

The USA wants Snowden whilst it grants assylum to Chechen terrorist.

And a whole lot more fromLatin America

[Frank]

Snowden embarrassed Obama, the terrorist didn't.

[nestork]

Harry:

You need to understand that the difference between a cowardly terrorist and a brave freedom fighter lies entirely in what side of a border you live on.

It's called "parallax". The same thing appears to be quite different depending on where you're viewing it from.

It's not just Americans who have parallax. Russians and Chinese view things from a completely different angle than Americans.

There's an old Ukrainian saying: "Everyone looks out upon the rest of the world from the steeple of their own village church." It means, that everyone looks upon everything with the perspective they gain from their own personal experiences. Someone who's been attacked by a dog as a child, will forever remain fearful of dogs, whereas others will walk up to a dog just to pet it.

[gfretwell]

I am not sure how you compare a book written from personal experiences and opinions with stolen government documents.

Snowden got asylum because the Russians wanted those stolen documents. In real life they have had the documents for months, they just want Snowden in the box until they can read them all.

[nestork]

No. Snowdon doesn't have information on what the US is doing to evesdrop on Russia, he has information on what the US is doing to evesdrop on Americans, and that kind of info is of little interest to the Russians.

Putin gave Snowdon asylum because he knew if he put him on a plane back to the USA, his critics in the Kremlin and abroad would have called that proof that he's Obama's puppet or that he's sucking up to the White House.

Putin granted him asylum on the condition that he release no more confidential documents, which means that he can't do any more harm than he's already done. And I see that as a pretty good line to take since Putin's not doing what the US wants, but he's not pi$$ing off the US either. After all, I expect one of the biggest reasons the White House wants Snowdon in a US jail is because they don't know how much confidential information he's stolen, and they want to make sure he doesn't release any more secrets than he already has. No one can do anything about what he's already released, not even Snowdon himself. Giving him asylum, but putting a cork in his mouth, addresses the White House's biggest concern while still giving all appearances of a genuine "Made in Russia" solution as to what to do with Snowdon. It's called "diplomacy".

[Robert Green]

Are you a Ukie? My BF growing up was. Talk about beautiful women - I had a crush on his older sister for a decade.

Today my cleaning woman showed me the scar she got from a what had always been a friendly dog that somehow got a brain blip and bit her. She's a real dog lover, too and knows how to approach dogs so as not to trip their defensive senses. Or so she thought.

I was badly attacked by dogs when I was very young and it wasn't until my late '50's that I owned one. It taught me once again you can't judge the many by the actions of a few. It took rescuing a dog with a 5%-20% survival chance and watching her pull through and respond to our care. Now I can't imagine life without her. They know when you've saved their lives.

Unfortunately that experience wrecks what I believed was a universal truth - that people over 40 years old don't ever change much. I still won't approach a dog I don't know without caution, but my attitude has pretty much completely reversed about dogs.

[harryagain]

Snowden got assylum because the USA has given asylum to terrorists from Russia in the past. Also it embarasses the USA and draws attention to the above.

I don't suppose for a moment he has any information they want.

[harryagain]

You mean really they don't know what further embarassing proof he has of US war crimes. Eg the Apache machine gunning of civilians.

The truth is coming out about fascist America.

[harryagain]

Tell us more about your experiences. What's this with baseball bats. A cricket bat would be better. But wait,you already got gas chambers.

I never knew GWashgington worked with Russins, Tell me more.