MagLite flashlights continue to be made in the USA even though the owner
knows that he could make more money by manufacturing overseas.
We need more companies like this.
MagLites are decent flashlight but they are by no means in the same
class as SureFire.
When I bought my dad a MagLite in the 70's it was clearly one of the
best flashlights on the market.
I have his flashlight now.....still working fine & approaching 40
For a reasonably priced, mass market unit they are pretty good.
The only failure mode I have experienced with MagLites is DuraCell
batteries leaking in them but not Energizers.
What failure mode(s) have you seen?
Haven't seen any failures, but I have to say that the Mag-Lite needs
some updating. It was great back when all flashlights were
incandescent, but the LED models have awful beam patterns, and a Task
Force 2-C cell LED flashlight kicks a big Mag-Lite's butt in every
respect save for use as a nightstick, and is *almost* small enough to
fit in a pocket (but comes with a handy belt pouch.) Also addresses
someone else's concern about rolling off a flat surface. I haven't
tried any of the "tactical" flashlights but I would hope that they are
even better yet.
NB: the last Mag-Lite I bought was maybe 10 years ago. Maybe they've
improved since then, but they're still big and heavy.
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Forgot to add - in the Mag's defense, it is a much more quality-made
product. the TF's barrel is slightly too big, so batteries rattle
unless you make a little cardboard shim, and waterproofing it requires
some creativity and rubber on the (end cap) switch and silicone grease
on the O-rings. The Mag is obviously more precisely made, and is
waterproof out of the box. Neither the batteries nor the switch rattle
However, if I have a job to do, I grab the TF. It's just more
convenient, and works better for the intended purpose of illuminating a
dark area. (I like 'em so much, esp. in the bang for the buck
department, that I have one in the glovebox of each of my cars, and
another for use as an occasional bicycle headlight. Yes, it's that
bright - comparable to the 'spensive German dynohub headlight on my
touring bike in brightness, although the beam pattern isn't as optimal.
However, if it's going to be pitch black and I still want to ride,
both used together are quite awesome. Couldn't use a Mag for that
purpose - the beam pattern is awful, it's not as bright, and it weighs a
If only Mag would copy the TF's LED and introduce a new light in between
the 2D and 2AA models, say, about the size of the TF, and then machine
in some flats so it wouldn't roll, they'd be right back on top of the
consumer-market flashlight heap again.
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The Mag LED in D cell, with the factory installed bulb. I really like
them. The bulb sold separately has the blue tint to it. I wish they
would make C cell mag with LED bulbs. I'd like that. I built one from
pieces. Bright enough to light up a tree a couple doors down the road
from me. But, blue tint.
Where did you get your Task Force? Lowe's, was it?
I took a Mag light into the swimming pool when I was a teen. Every
time I pushed the button, a bubble came out from the switch button.
The next day the swtich died. I sent it back. They wrote back to send
two dollars postage, they would return my light with a new switch. I
did, they did. Their reminder note is the light is water resistant,
not water proof. Might have been OK to turn the light on, play with it
under water, but not turn it on or off.
I just bought a 3D model Mag at Costco with a single high powered LED
and it has a great beam pattern and is blazingly bright - brightest
flashlight I've ever seen. I can easily illuminate stuff a couple
blocks away at night.
and a Task
Does that explain the aircraft landing on your street?
When I bought a 3D LED mag, I tried it and my Garrity 3D light, in the
Lowe's parking lot. Used the same batteries, tried one light and then
put the batteries in the other light. I thought my Garrity was broken,
it was 1/4 or 1/3 of the light of the LED Mag. It focusses, and shines
light an amazing distance.
"Black Friday" and the lights were half price.
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:12:20 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
When I put my old halogen 3D maglite next to the LED one the halogen
one looks like a sick yellow candle by comparison. That's the other
thing about the LED, it's a really "white" light, as in blueish white
Within their class, they are the preferred unit for belt lights by sailors
on ships. They are light weight, throw alot of light for their size, last
longer than most other types with a brighter beam (so you don't suddenly go
dead and get stranded in the dark, you get plenty of warning as it gets
dimmer), waterproof which is critical when standing topside out in the rain.
They also come normally with at least 3 color lenses you overlay, one of
which is required to maintain night vision on the bridge, in CIC, and other
places like flight deck control or just topside in general at night.
Thse are the small ones about size of your hand. They also have an
accessory kit with a rubberized portion that will keep it from rolling on a
flat surface (several types of that). They have a little spot to hook to an
extensable lanyard so if walking in the dark, you can turn it on and just
let it hang and light your foot area while your hands are encumbered.
Failures to date: I've had to replace th bulb after a few years in some of
them. Usually after dropping one down several decks worth of ladders. Once
broke the glass face bit doing that too (that one still lit but was bent and
no longer waterproof so was replaced).
No, we don't.
Companies keeping jobs in the USA "just because" is every bit as much
of a false economy as all the government bailouts.
It's a feel-good warm-fuzzy for idiots who don't understand economics.
It does nothing to solve the problem, and only exacerbates it further
by slowing our descent to rock-bottom.
The solution to the problem is to make it less costly to produce the
products in the USA than China.
There are only two ways to do that:
1. Make the American people willing to work hard for less money and no
2. Make the Chinese people UNwilling to work hard for less money and
I don't see #1 happening any time soon.
#2 is easy. Just keep buying Chinese and sending our jobs over there.
Once they get a taste of the good life they'll want more and more and
more. Costs will go up, and soon it'll be more profitable to make
stuff in the USA again.
I don't think in this case it's "just because". It is very much a part of
their marketing efforts. Their aren't doing it alone either - watch the
new Jeep commercials. In any case, if you take away "Made in USA", what
else is there to base your marketing on? An antiquated-looking product
that was the last (AFAIK) among brand name flashlights to adopt LED
technology? Besides, its (antiquated as it is) look is also a part of the
brand and it is very much based on the production machinery that must be
30+ years old now, has been paid off many times over, very expensive to
move anywhere, let alone China, and will probably not survive the move
anyways. Oh, and of course will be very loudly laughed at by Chinese
engineers when they see the controllers and other parts from 1979.
Also, re-creating the production line from scratch in China is not
feasible for a company that "[in 2009]lost nearly $11 million" and "had to
lay off 200 people" (out of 700). Sad as it is, they are just stuck in
here, may even be against their will.
What do "we" do? I kind of think that attitude is part of the problem. The
question should be, what do the mag light workers do? I think the answer is,
that that's a decision they must make for themselves.
This economy sucks, and I know my solution has been to do more work for less
money. Everyone likes a good deal, and until such a time that things get
better, my customer's are getting great deals, and I'm working, and paying
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org
That says nothing of the economic benefits of China's lax labor and
enviromental laws. Over there you can just dump your waste products
in the river and replace any worker who gets hurt on the job at zero
I see tariffs as the only solution, but I don't see a solution for
china imposing retalitory tariffs.
True, but how long do you think the Chinese people will stand for
Certainly, not as long as the American people did. Information simply
moves too quickly in this day and age.
Doesn't China already tariff the hell out of everything they buy from
I've never understood why we let other countries put heavy tariffs on
our exports, while our import tariffs are little more than lip service.
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