Maybe that too.
He got on the PA and told the passengers to go f yourselves, or words to
that effect. I imagine most people that have jobs in customer service or
contact with the public would like to do that at times.
Please try to be at least a little bit accurate. He addressed his
comment to the nasty passenger who had just told HIM to**** himself.
He did NOT "...tell the passengerS to ....". He was very much
provoked by the nasty passenger. After 20 years of this, something
could and did snap.
Also: He checked on the ground BEFORE deploying the slide, so the pig
media are in error (as usual) by gloating that he could have
injured people on the ground. After 20 years of watching over peoples'
safety, it's not likely that he would endanger someone in a fit of
The last couple of times I have flown, the routine was baggage
class....everyone had carry-ons, the plane was loaded via front and back
doors, and it was FULL. Someone was loading the last carry-on into the
overhead compartment and it didn't fit very well....they started forcing
the door. Attendant politely came on the intercom and said that if
overhead doors are broken, the flight would be cancelled. Seems like,
from the attendant point of view, it has gone from serving the public to
herding cattle. Twenty years?
re: "After 20 years of watching over peoples' safety, it's not likely
that he would endanger someone in a fit of pique."
Right up to that point, I was on your side.
Once a person crosses that thin line between rational thought and
bizarre behavior, I don't think you can use their past history as a
gauge of what they might or might not do.
The preacher who has an affair after leading his church for 35 years.
The teacher who shoots a fellow teacher after grooming hundreds of
straight A students over 25 years.
The high school coach who pummels a parent after being named "State
Coach of the Year" 3 years in a row.
They were all upstanding (albeit hypothetical) citizens until
something made them snap.
As they say in the financial business: "Past performance is no
guarantee of future results."
When I worked in HR and handled insurance issues for employees, things
often got emotional. Most often, underpayments occurred because folks
didn't complete claim forms properly. All the "nosy" stuff (accident?,
work-related?) on the claim forms had a reason for being there.
Employees were rarely abusive, but it happened a couple of times. One
day a guy yelled at me and left, slamming the door as he went out...no
cussing or personal stuff, as I recall. For a while, I thought about
what I should have said and was on the verge of marching out to tell him
what I should have said....he ruined my day by coming back to apologize
:o) The company, and the HR department, were very pro-employee and had
great benefits, so it wasn't a case of the "poor" employee getting
"Police sources said that when authorities found [the flight attendant] he
seemed to be in the midst having sexual relations [with his boyfriend]."
This may have simply been a case of urgent need. He could claim exigent
I hadn't really thought about that, but of course, they _should_ be in
the news as well. And put on a do-not-fly or mandatory-body-cavity-
But the airlines have to take some responsibility for such things
happening. They've lowered the baggage allowance and jacked prices,
so what do people do? Duh - they carry on way more stuff. I've
rarely seen someone get shot down for having a too large carry on bag,
and they never weigh them like they're supposed to do. When you have
a too big bag that's a bit too heavy, and everyone is doing it, of
course there's going to be too little space in the overhead
compartments and people are going to have a tough time lifting/forcing
them in there.
I feel for the people who try to cheat the luggage fees (not!!!). IMNSHO,
people and their luggage should be weighed and then charged $1/lbs over 225
I can't stand the people who rush into a plane with all their bags and
steal all the overhead space.
Btw, I had to pay $800 plus 100,000 miles to get a first class seat on my
flight home from Paris, so I could keep my broken leg elevated most of the
Slipped off a rock bordering a playground full of beach sand. Probably
some fine sand provided lubrication under my shoes. Fortunately, I was
operated on and back from recovery in a hospital room within 5 hours from
breaking the leg, including wait time for ambulance and ER diagnostics.
Except that from all indications, that isn;'t what happened. The
plane was not departing, it was arriving. The passenger supposedly
accidently hit the flight attendant while removing his bag and refused
to appologize, which started the incident.
I have no sympathy for this moron. There are Fed laws governing
unruly passengers and he could have followed procedures and called for
security to deal with the woman. Even if she were just detained for
an hour and questioned, that would have certainly made a lasting
impression on her for her actions. I've personally seen people
removed from planes for being abusive to flight attendents. A case
in point. Recently I was travelling back from West Palm Beach to
Philly. As the plane was loading, it became clear that there would
not be enough overhead storage for all the passengers. So the flight
attendents told people at some point on the jetway that from that
point on carry-on bags had to be checked to go in the cargo hold. I
did it and there is no charge. This woman started bitching about it,
insisting she had the right to carry the bag on, that her 80 year old
mother was meeting her and would now have to wait while her luggage
came out, etc. This continued onto the plane and even after she was
seated. Finally, they told her to take another airline and escorted
her off the plane. That plane was the last flight from WPB to Philly
that night. So, she must have wound up having to stay overnight.
The best part was the flight got in early and by the time I took a
quick bathroom stop and then got to baggage claim, the bags were
already coming off. That;s a far better solution, inconveniencing the
screw ball, rather than screwing up other passengers and possibly
endangering ground personnel.
What he did cost the airline significant money. It was reported on
the news last night that it costs $25K to restore the emergency chute
after deployment. Also, that plane was likely out of service for a
good deal of time and passengers waiting for it for the next flight
likely spent hours waiting, missed connections, meetings, etc.
The guy should pay the full cost for what he did and get convicted on
at least some of the charges.
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