OT. EVs and Hurricanes

Depends on the natural disaster. We mainly get tornadoes. As you know, that means "hunker down in the basement", not "hit the road and see if a tornado can lift your car into the air".

And the odd ice storm or big snowfall.

Honestly, I can't figure out why people want to live on the coasts, but I'm glad they're not all here in the middle.

Good fishing. I'm having red snapper for dinner tonight, caught 80 miles off shore yesterday.

A lot of mixing of apples and oranges going on here.

"Were a hurricane barreling toward you and you needed to escape, would you want a car that could travel hundreds of miles, refill with a few containers of fuel that you carried without much hassle, and then start driving again almost immediately to get you out of the danger zone?"

In almost all cases you don't need to drive more than maybe 50 or 100 miles to get out of the high danger zone. Hurricane Katrina for example, all you had to do was get out of New Orleans to avoid the worst of it. And I'd bet the vast majority of gas or diesel fueled vehicle owners don't have a few containers of fuel that they would carry in such a situation.

"Or would you prefer a car that looks flashy, gets you claps from Hollywood types, can only travel a few hundred miles at most (and normally quite a bit fewer than that), and requires a complex, electricity powered refueling station, a generator, or solar panels to recharge, with that recharging taking anywhere from half an hour in the best of circumstances or hours upon hours in the worst, with the solar panels option taking forever, assuming the sun hadn’t been blotted out by the hurricane at that point?"

Almost all electric cars are being recharged by the grid not directly by solar panels, etc. Now if the author wanted to bring up a real potential problem, it would be all the electric cars trying to charge up at the same time as a hurricane approaches and that it might be too much for the grid. But that's a long way down the road, right now there aren;t enough of these cars to matter. One drawback to electric vehicles is if it happens to be near empty and some emergency comes up suddenly, like you need to get to a sick relative 100 miles away, you can't leave until you're charged up enough. But the charging abilities continue to improve. If you have a car that can do the latest supercharging and have access to a charge facitily, you could get that 100 miles charge in under half an hour.

You caught it? What's the impact been of fuel prices on this? Boats suck down fuel at an incredible rate. From NJ the deep sea fishing canyon is

I'll leave that to the pros.

We've got fishing here, if you like freshwater fish.

Guess that most are happy where they are. I live in the middle of North Carolina. About 4 hours or less from the ocean and 2 or 3 hours to the mountains. Winter is not too cold most years and most summers are not that hot. This year it is unusual, lots of 90 to 90 deg days but not

Snow is only a few times a year of 2 to 6 inches if that much but I have seen 12 inches about 5 times in 50 years.

No bad tornadoes to speak of in the area.

Very happy here but the damm yankeeys are moving in and the house prices are going up more than the wages for many.

Well, we call can't be Danny Deckchair. (Was that his name? Schlepped gasoline in mass quantities to his house, someplace in California if all the neurons are talking today.)

I might have a much as 10 gallons on hand, but usually half that. Still, 5 gallons might get me 100 miles.

Not everybody has relatives 100 miles away. There's no one-size-fits-all solution.

Maybe electric cars aren't for everybody. Maybe "Will" at trendingpolitics.com should untwist his panties. (Why doesn't he have a last name? Reputable journalists have at least two.)

The government has involved itself in transportation infrastructure for a couple of hundred years. Canals, roads, railroads, air travel. It's generally been good for everybody.

Can you spell sailboat, boys and girls?

Reminds one, it does, of the time the NYPD highlighted their rescue of the folk aboard a catamaran floating near the Statue of Liberty 'cuz, per the NYPD rep, it "ran out of fuel".

(damn those envirowhackoes. We warned them they'd be using up the wind...)

I have a friend retired in the NC mountains and he says the same thing.

Where I live in DE, I am only two hours from NJ or DE beaches but they are crowded. NC beaches I have been to were not crowded.

My granddaughter does not drive because of a visual problem. I took her to the boat and picked her up after, so 140 miles for me.

The boat left the dock at 5AM and returned at 5PM. Two engines. Time aside, I figure the fish cost about $50 a pound, maybe more.

It is really a bullshit article. Has there ever been a million cars escaping Florida?

You would have had the same problem a century ago if Florida had a million cars and the number of gas stations that existed at that time. Somehow, over time, the support system was built.

We have a long way to go for the infrastructure needed but things are in the works. Just think how stupid the Wright brothers were to invent the airplane when no airports existed.

It brings-to-mind my half-day of drift fishing off Florida many years ago. A 60 footer if I remember. An enjoyable 1/2 hour cruising out ; followed by 3 hours of puking and dry-heaves ; and a much welcomed 1/2 hour cruise back in. Lots of fun. John T.

I guess I can't complain as I'm one of the damned Yankees that moved here but. . . . The past two years real estate has been going up everywhere but the greatest increase is a few southern places like Florida. According to Zillow, the house I sold in CT is up 100k, but the house I bought here is up over 200k. Considering how much wages went up in that time period, housing is becoming unaffordable for many.

Rent increases from $1200 to $1900 are common too. Middle class is having a tough time with increases like that. Many of the rentals are being bought up by NY investment firms and jacking rents.

I suspect in some areas high property taxes keep the costs of homes down and people are bailing out of high tax states and home prices are kept down. I just looked up the price of a home where my mother was from in Connecticut and it was about the size of my house but $200,000 less but taxes were 3X.

Indeed. And consider that with everyone leaving a metropolitan region all at the same time, those gasoline powered cars are going to be burning gas at idle for hours (and running out on the highway), while the electric cars will use very little of their electric reserves (especially with the dynamic braking and regeneration capabilities).

I have had both experiences fishing in Florida. Nice, calm day it was great but rough water it was horrendous. Coming and going not a problem but when you stop to fish and bob around it can be tough if not calm.

Those with sea-legs would have called it a beautiful day on the water - maybe 4 - 5 ft. rollers - but the drift fishing is bobbing on the waves ... relentlessly .. John T.