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When you replace the plugs use either NGK or Nippondenso - or AC Delco in a pinch. NOT E3 or Bosch Dual Platinum or other "gimick" plugs. With Coil On Plug dual platinum is not required - they ARE highly recommended for waste spark ignition systems (just not BOSCH). Waste spark systems (double ended coils) fire plugs both polarities so erode both electrodes.

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Clare Snyder
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I guess I haven't bought spark plugs in a long time -

Kia dealer $ 27.54 each ! < NGK OEM >

Canadian Tire NGK OEM $ 20. NGK <same but non OEM $ 13. >

John T.

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hubops

You remember Champion J8 plugs for 29 cents too, do you???

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Clare Snyder

I don't remember 29 cent plugs but $ 30. plugs caught me by surprise ! What makes the NGK OEM better than the same NGK not OEM ? or better than Autolite 2 for $ 22. ?

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Personal preference / experience ? John T.

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hubops

Years ago I drove a rental with the check engine light on for over a thousand miles. That also tells us to never buy a used car from a rental agency.

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invalid unparseable

Wow. Used to get a set of 8 for that price.

I think I'll buy the Candadian ones except if they're made out of rubber.

My previous car had a side-mounted 6-cylinder, and I thought of changing the plubs, but I didn't see how I, or anyone, would get the rear 3 out. And I didn't like having 3 new ones and 3 old ones... it bothers my sense of evenness.

The next car is the same as the previous car so I have no plans to change the plugs. It still starts quickly.

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micky

Sometimes you never know about the warning lights. I had a car that had a warning light that came on after so many thousand miles. The factory solution was to cut the wire to that light as it was something to do with a sensor that they thought may only last so many mils but found out it did not normally go bad. Another car would get the check engine light every time I filled up at either of 2 service stations that I only did about every 2 or 3 months.

Now my pet peve about the lights is the tire pressure warning because the batteries in the sensors only last so long.

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Ralph Mowery

Helena Rubenstein**, a major cosmetics developer and manufacturer, said that she continued for decades to use the first face cream she ever designed, but she found that the more she charged for other face creams, the more her customers bought it. So of course, the company kept coming out with even more expensive creams.

I suspect it's the same thing here. They charge more because they sell better at the higher price.

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but the fact above is not in the wikip article. It was iirc in a book I read in JHS. _Nine who chose America_ Googling that gives all kinds of extraneious hits many that are not word for word, but fails to find in the first 20 or more hits the Amazon webpage where they have for sale a used copy of the book, from 1959, a year or so before I read it.
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micky

There is a huge difference. When you buy the OEM plugs the service manager gets a better bonus.

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Ed P

Shania Twain once said she used this veterinary balm on her skin.

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John T.

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hubops

Actually, it is. I should have read the whole article before posting. It says "They [Rubenstein and Elizabeth Arden] were both keenly aware of effective marketing and luxurious packaging, the attraction of beauticians in neat uniforms, the value of celebrity endorsements, the perceived value of overpricing and the promotion of the pseudoscience of skincare."

Which points to

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though I couldn't find anything here about overpricing.

This might be better,

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One interesting part: "Decoy pricing Method of pricing where the seller offers at least three products, and where two of them have a similar or equal price. The two products with the similar prices should be the most expensive ones, and one of the two should be less attractive than the other. This strategy will make people compare the options with similar prices; as a result, sales of the more attractive high-priced item will increase. "

And check out the opposite, Premium decoy pricing,

Odd-Even pricing has an example that reminds me of my mother, "A good example of this can be noticed in most supermarkets where instead of pricing milk at £5, it would be written as £4.99. " Not at the store but when home and reading advertisements, she would see something sold at say $3.99, roughly $4, but later could not remember if it was 3.99 or

4.xx, that is, 4.99. So instead of her liking it because it's not even $4, her memory was that it was almost $5, a high price, so it had the opposite effect on her from what was intended.

Glad to see I remembered accurately something I read at age 13.

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micky

Only $18.50.

Called Bag Balm and not for the bags under one's eyes.

I wonder why you can't ship it to Alberta.

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micky

BTW, this book was about 9 immigrants to America, who contributed greatly to our country, most of whom came when there were no limits and the only ones sent back were only 1% of those who came, those who had TB or maybe some other serious contagious illness.

They included her; Sikorsky who made the first practical helicopter, and I can't remember the other 7.

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micky

My Costco carries Bag Balm in the pharmacy for a penny less.

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's-original-moisturizing-ointment-2-8-oz-%2526-1-1-oz-tins.product.4000216554.html (The "bag" in the name refers to a portion of the bovine anatomy.)

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Scott Lurndal

It's considered veterinary medicine there. John T.

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hubops

Good advice. In my younger days I drove rentals like they were stolen. What fun is there in renting a Javelin and driving like grandma?

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rbowman

In the winter I switch to studded tires mounted on rims that never had sensors. I sometimes notice the blinking icon but when it goes to steady I filter it out.

It used to think the charge for new valve stems when you bought new tires was a scam. Now it's and additional charge to 'rebuild' the sensors.

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rbowman

I've used Bag Balm for years. It hasn't done anything for my beauty but it's great for the dry skin on my elbows in the winter.

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rbowman

Nothing wrong with vet meds. I was treating a lame horse by rubbing down his leg with Absorbine, which comes in a gallon jug. When I got through with him I'd rub down my own leg. I don't know if it is exactly the same as Absorbine Jr. but it's a lot cheaper.

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rbowman

The autolites look good. I think OEM is NGK Lazer platinum and the non OEM is G-Power Platinum. What is the actual difference??? Not a clue, other than price.

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Clare Snyder

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