Ed, since when was this about the weight of a specific vehicle? You are trying to twist things to fit your narrative.
By the way, you never answered if you knew if the fine particulate pollution was from the tires or the road or both. It is typical for far left liberals not to answer anything asked of them, but to divert to a different subject
Look at this quote: "You should know that EV's weigh over a thousand pounds more than gas"
Where is the evidence? Pick a vehicle and show us. Yes, a Hummer weighs more than Fiat but take any car of about the same class. Show where the 1000 pound quote is justified. No one has. You haven't, Frank hasn't because it is not true.
All you do is dance and criticize but offer no facts to back up the assertions. Pretty simple.
Off hand I don't have the answer as it was not me that brought that up. It is typical of the Trump cult to ignore facts. Show me the missing half tone.
You live in a political fantasy world. Frank and others gave you links and tons of evidence. It is all over the place. I am not going to waste my time repeating for you what others have already done. "Narrative" is not the "Truth".
Thank you for admitting you cannot back up the 1000 pound claim with real facts. Yes, your narrative is not truth.
No amount of evidence will convince you. You are a hopeless Left Wing fanatic.
All it takes is one statistic. See, you are dancing and shifting blame rather than show the facts. Half Ton T.
You have been provided it numerous times.
So the figures you claimed to say it was lighter than your car were completely imaginary? They certainly seem like the specs for an ICE G80 which, surprisingly, is no heavier than an ICE G80.
They are from the web but did not give the particulars for each configuration. Some options may change but not 1000 pounds
- Standard Range Battery" and it just has "lbs.".
F-150 Lightning LARIAT 4WD SuperCrew Base Curb Weight (pounds) 6015
There's your vehicle. Same model, same manufacturer, and the plug-in version weights in a 1177 pounds more. Weasel your way out of this one.
Do you want to talk about F-150 facts or tuck your tail and run?
Actually, 1177 pounds difference for the F150 Lariat 4x4 crew cab. That's even more than half a long ton.
I don't think anyone was getting a $7500 tax credit for buying a horseless carriage. I doubt California had filling stations with free gasoline. You want an electric car? Fine. Do it on your own nickle.
No, you have not given one example, just the lame comment above.
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This is typical of Leftists. Facts, data, examples are like water off a duck.
He will just accuse you of admitting you have no data to present.
Please re-read the above blanket statement about ALL EV's from Frank and then re-evaluate what you wrote below.
One exceptional case doesn't prove the statement Factless made.
3% of vehicles in the USA are EVs. So the tire dust from the remaining 97% of IC vehicles completely subsumes any purported increase in EV tire dust due to a bit of extra weight due to batteries.And that leaves out the 100% bogus comparison of tire dust (really a form of microplastic) to tailpipe emissions in the original article.
What's to weasel - your example doesn't make Franks statement accurate.
This from the guy who is 100% non-stop narrative and you'll even demonstrate that here for us again.
Bingo. There you go. Anyone who has data that disagrees with your pre-conceived notions must be a lib. That's a big part of your BS narrative. And why would you expect Ed to know about these tire particle emissions? You posted about it, I'll bet no one else here had ever heard about it before. It came from a biased, no credibility source with a "narrative" against EVs too.
Now you're lying again. The links I've seen do not make an apples to apples comparison of an EV and a similar gas vehicle. But I did when I posted this:
It's hard to find actual solid comparison data, comparing apples to apples. So here's what I did. Let's look at the Tesla S. It weighs 4,561 to 4,766 lbs. Then I Googled for comparable cars and found this from Autoweek:
The Audi A7 hits most of the same points of Tesla's Model S—save, of course, for its gasoline options. From pricing to sizing, Audi's A7, S7, and RS7 are almost a full analog for the battery-powered Tesla.
The weights:
A7 4332 S7 4597 RS7 4938
So if there is this huge difference in weight, one that is going to kill people via more emissions from it's tires, I'm sure not seeing it. And just the fact that you have this one clear example, shows that there does not have to be a big difference in weight due to batteries. The above Tesla doesn't run on a cord.
The whole weight thing is irrelevant anyway. These EVs get excellent mileage and that's why that biased anti-EV BS piece started in with the tire emissions BS. And in doing so, they compared the emissions of EV tires to the tailpipe emissions of gas cars. Gas cars don't have tires?
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