OR: interesting pollution turning up from rolling fire bombs

The majority of the cars on the road are not the ones he included. The average rolling fire bomb weights more than the average fuel power vehicle. Both of you are twisting things to meet your narrative.

Coal powered rolling fire bombs are a rich man's toy. Not a practical solution for the rest of us.

How about facts? I gave you an actual weight of my car and the new EV version that is lighter. You say the ones give are not in the majority? F-150 certainly is. Camry? Do you ever look at cars going by?

Don't just spout off your narrative, give some actual facts and figures if you think the examples are wrong.

Oh Bull S*it Ed. You know very well you are veering off topic justify your narrative. to try to

Now that is a mechanic!

Convenient thing about being a liberal is you just follow what you are told and do not think for yourself.

Just a simple google would tell you this:

I'm not only thinking for myself I provided FACTS. Show me the 1000 pound difference. Yes, some may be heavier, I showed on lighter. You were critical of what was shown but have failed to show what you stated. Just show the 1000 pound difference you mentioned. Unless it was just some BS you tried to impress with.

I cannot teach you how to think for yourself.

Nor can you substantiate your claims. Where is it Frank?

Just back up the claims. Should be easy if true.

"Furthermore, they found that adding half a metric ton (1,100 pounds) “of battery weight can result in tire emissions that are almost 400 more times greater than real-world tailpipe emissions, everything else being equal.”

Exactly, so why are you citing an article that tries to make the above BS comparison? Where are the numbers showing the tire emissions of an electric car versus the tire emissions of a similar gas car or SUV, or F150 pickup, etc? Gee, I wonder why. And why if it's really about tire emissions, do they toss in the FIRE!, narrative? Oh, I know, it's because it's from a source with no credibility, but a big agenda. Kind of like you.

What he did provide shows is that a Tesla weighs just 190 pounds more than a Toyota Camry and 280 pounds less than a Lexus. So the whole premise that electric cars weigh 1100 pounds more is BS. But we pretty much knew that the article is agenda based, they even throw in your Fire! narrative too.

Simply amazing again that the guy that keeps calling electric cars rolling fire bombs has the gall to accuse someone else of having a narrative. And again, it's clearly a BS narrative that electric cars are coal powered. Only 20% of US electric power comes from coal today, its been declining for decades. But, what's your problem with coal? Trump, your guy, ran around promoting coal, beautiful clean coal, we didn't see you bitching then. And today lots of similar conservatives keep talking about how much coal we have that should be used. What's up with that?

Right, that's special coming from the guy who keeps calling electric cars rolling fire bombs. Nothing off topic. You cited a BS article that claimed electric cars are 1100 pounds heavier than gas powered and compared tire emissions from electric cars to tailpipe emissions of gas ones. Oh, look 400 time higher! Gas cars don't have tires to make the correct comparison? Ed provided some good examples of similar cars that shows there isn't typically a 1100 pound weight difference.

Simple common sense would tell you that there is no actual data there, just an explanation of why they claim electric vehicles "are so heavy". It's hard to find actual solid comparison data, comparing apples to apples. So here's what I did. Let's look at the Tesla S. It weighs 4,561 to 4,766 lbs. Then I Googled for comparable cars and found this from Autoweek:

The Audi A7 hits most of the same points of Tesla's Model S—save, of course, for its gasoline options. From pricing to sizing, Audi's A7, S7, and RS7 are almost a full analog for the battery-powered Tesla.

The weights:

A7 4332 S7 4597 RS7 4938

So if there is this huge difference in weight, one that is going to kill people via more emissions from it's tires, I'm sure not seeing it. And also note that the BS article Mr. T is promoting never told us how much tire emissions actually increase versus weight. No, they just proceeded to compare tire emissions from electric cars to tailpipe emissions from gas cars. See anything wrong there, Frank?

Just the facts ma'am.

So your claim is off by 105 hp and 1.8 seconds. What the probability the curb weight is bullshit too? Genesis ain't talking.

You misstated the horsepower and 0-60 time of the eG80. Show me a curb weight from Genesis.

They have more than one configuration. Specs are not on the web site yet.

Still waiting for that half ton difference.

Was the transition from horses to engines more market driven than what we're facing in the changeover to EVs?

It was market driven but there were plenty of naysayers and obstructionists as the auto became popular.