I have a problem at the office. Door to door sales. I've posted
signs all over the door to discourage them, but they think the
signs don't apply to them. I've had a couple of indidents where
they've refused to leave until I pick up the phone to call the
I've started locking the door, but now they sit outside and
bang on the door and I have an employee just inside who is
being made very uncomfortable. I'd like to still be able to
see out the windows while making it difficult for the people
outside to see in. Obviously we always have lights on here,
but this also only happens during daylight hours.
I hate the thought of giving up advertising space on the door
(we only have one window and that's in the break room) but
we can live with that.
Thanks for any ideas.
Simple solution, give the uncomfortable employee a camera (with flash)
and have them take the picture of each violator of the no soliciting
sign. Add verbiage to the sign that violators will be reported to the
police and follow through by sending copies of the pictures to the
police. When the same face appears a few times you should be able to get
some action taken.
We have a camera, but there's no state law that I've been able to
find that says they have to heed the NO SOLICITING signs. I
even have one sign that makes it VERY CLEAR we hate solicitors
(though I tried to be humorous about it). I always ask them, did
you read the signs on the door? and they always say Yes.
I don't think I've been visited by the same company more than once,
but this happens 2-3 times a week regardless.
Several other tenants that have businesses here have said they've
had no luck getting the police or the town involved and they've also
resorted to locking their doors, but they don't have the problem
that I do with having an employee on the other side of the door.
What kind of office is this where you work? It sounds like your door
is not for any kind of customer. I would suggest that you just paint
over the window or completely cover it up. Then go back to locking it
and be as quiet as a mouse.
I would like to know more about your "office." Does your office open
onto the street? Are you in a building which itself is part of your
business? Etc. --Phil
Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin
mailto: firstname.lastname@example.org Youngstown State University
We do software development, so no, we will NEVER have a customer
come in. Typically we just get lots of take-out food deliveries and UPS,
Fedex and Staples.
It's a strip of condos all with businesses that vary from lasers, to
to art supply retailer, glass replacement, sign making... so it's a mix
of retailers and commercial
Blacking out the door and window is OK and long as it doesn't block
off natural light (working under fluroescents only is bad) and I'd like to
able to look out the door and see if it's the UPS guy or unwelcome
Youngstown State University
Great ideas, I'd love to implement them, as well as a button
that releases tigers, shoots lightning bolts, and opens up the
punji trap in the sidewalk outside. Alas, one call to the
police from these clowns I'm sure will have me either
removing the device or hiring an attorney.
The police have said they won't respond unless the sales people refuse
to leave. We've been told they are breaking no laws by soliciting. On
the other hand, if I assult them, now I've broken a law (and there's
always the possibilty some DA might consider an airhorn to be an assault).
There is NO problem with assertiveness here. The newest sign is quite
assertive and I've resorted to screaming GTFO of my business when
required (and on bad days when I feel like yelling at someone who feels
my signs don't apply to them). At this point though it's difficult to be
assertive through a locked door when they are standing outside it annoying
an employee. I should not have to deal with disruptions to my business
because of these people.
We've gotten way off topic here though. I'm looking
for suggestions on one-way tinting during daylight hours.... unless you
know of some MA law I can invoke that actually would have consequences
for people ignoring my signs.
That's an interesting idea, however unless door to door salesmen are like
ants and go back to their salesman hangout with salesmen from other
companies, word wont spread and I'd have to do this several times a
Throw their skanky asses in jail:
Massachusetts General Laws:
Chapter 266, Section 120: Entry Upon Private Property After Being Forbidden
"Whoever, without right enters or remains in or upon the dwelling house,
buildings, boats or improved or enclosed land, wharf, or pier of another, or
enters or remains in a school bus, as defined in section 1 of chapter 90,
after having been forbidden so to do by the person who has lawful control of
said premises, whether directly or by notice posted thereon ... shall be
punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars or by imprisonment
for not more than thirty days or both such fine and imprisonment. "
You can have the glass tinted with a mirror/reflective type tint and
ppl will not be able to see in as long as the lights inside aren't
brighter than the natural light is outside.
At night, it will work just the opposite, you will not be able to see
out as long as the lights are on the the office space.
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