This is Turtle.
You can't charge Polical Government elected officals with being stupid or being
inhuman for you would have 90% of all Elected Officals in jail that are elected
Now I will say this , they were incompetant but the Multi-Billions of Dollars
that would come their way in the form of aide from the Federal Govt. for them to
figure out how to pick off a few billion for them to have a retirement program
was the biggest deal of all. They just waited too late to know when to stop and
give up. You should know your ability and what you can handle before you start a
job like this.
First off, it did *not* take "5+ days" after the storm made landfall before
help started coming. In the second place, even after it made landfall, it was
*still* a friggin' hurricane, for Pete's sake -- kinda tough to fly
helicopters, or drive trucks, in 100mph winds. They *can't* start moving help
in until after the winds subside.
And, of course, delivery of help is considerably complicated when gangs of
thugs start shooting at the rescue helicopters and repair trucks.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
And if the New Orleans cops had been doing their jobs at the beginning, it
never would have gotten started. But they allowed looting to go unchecked for
two days. Now you want to blame the _national_ government for the lawlessness?
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
I don't envy them the task, but...
Some of the cops went so far as to join in, so there clearly are some
serious problems in the force to start with.
Looters had to get around the flooded streets as well as the cops--most
of what I saw being looted wasn't all that flooded, nor would it have
made a lot of sense to loot water-damaged goods.
An early example made of several would have had a pretty major
mitigating factor in all likelihood.
That said, it was a tough situation and leadership from the top didn't
seem to be up to the task both locally and statewide which certainly
didn't give the average "cop on the beat" much support.
It just seems from here as if everyone, from the man on the street
on up, decided that it wasn't going to be all that bad, and it's
someone else's responsibility to deal with it anyway.
And then it WAS that bad.
Congress should listen to you when they have their hearings (which they
undoubtedly will). That's probably as good a synopsis as any they're
likely to come up with. They'll just take weeks(or months) and volumes
and volumes to come up with basically the same thing.
Yup, human life is cheap. Shoot anyone that has an item in their hand
that looks like it might have been stolen. It doesn't matter if it is
food, bottled water, or TV sets. The fact that they may have been
transporting property they owned, should never be investigated. Just
shoot them. Typical survivalist attitude.
After watching the waste of human life, cause it was cheap, in Vietnam,
I never thought I'd hear it from uppity US citizens, who supposedly
value life. But, I have time after time. The exact reason, after being a
peace officer for a period of time, I quit. Couldn't shot someone who
stole a small or large item, if they didn't have a weapon and innocent
people were not in danger. Property can be replaced, innocent lives can
But then, some people value their and other's possessions more than
other's lives. Religion taught us that, right?
I'm sure the flatscreen TVs, etc., coming out of the upscale stores were
personal property they had already purchased but wasn't yet delivered so
thought this was a good time. Yeah.
But, no, human life isn't cheap and it isn't really the looting, per se.
It's that anarchy simply can <not> be allowed to develop.
It's one thing to go scavanging for food and water and other
necessities. This was nothing other than common hoodlums.
Can you be sure without properly investigating? The way the OP posted we
should start killing anyone who looked like they might be looting. I
have more than enough killing in my lifetime, but I'm sure others could
care less about taking a life. After all, killing others is part of what
we need to keep civility in this nation, right? Death by firearms is
part of what we have to keep others under control? Oh well, enough said
on my part. I'm sure I could never convince you that taking a life, for
property alone, is murder, plain and simple.
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