NEC sucks

If you want it in your house, do it. Who needs you mandating that everyone should have what you want?

You can always get a wireless light switch.

Interesting

The NEC is all about safety. Someone dies from an electrical fire or is electrocuted, then they come up with ways to prevent these things from happening again in the future.

Since no one has died from walking to the other end of the hall to flip a switch, there is no urgent need to have any rules for that.

My pet peeve is no outlets in hallways. Well you need to vacuum the hallway don't you?

Anyway you can suggest new rules for the NEC here...

Reel nice, but a little pricey!

using your line of thinking, then why do they mandate that a room have a switched fixture or outlet?

And i'll bet the code really does require the three (and four) way switches at the different doorways of a room. If you interpret it that way. I believe it says something about being able to turn on a light when you enter a room.

Because I an the center of the universe and everything should be approved by me. ;-)

I'll bet at least one person has tripped in the dark and died while going for the light switch at the other side of the room.

LOL! I didn't know that (I'm not an electrician) but I always find it awkward when vacuuming in the hallway. At first I always looked for an outlet there.

The NEC requires an outlet in any hallway 10 feet or longer

Hi, Main purpose of NEC is for the safety, not some one's convenience. When you build the house, customize to your liking. That's what I do. I never lived in a preowned house.

Or wear a mining helmet at all times. :-)

The only place I can think of that requires 3 and 4 way switches is stairways. You need a switch at any place you can enter the stair well. Generally one at the top and one at the bottom but if there is a landing with an entrance in the middle you need a switch there too.

As for rooms, you only need a wall mounted switch ... somewhere. It doesn't even need to be in the room with the light.

Note, it says the "outlet" needs to be in the room but it is silent on where the switch is.

You will be proposing for the 2014 code. Proposals and comments are closed for the 2011.

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At a hundred and fifty bucks a pop? Less interesting?

My in-laws house is built around the den. The den has two doors from the living room and doors to three bedrooms and each has a 3 or 4 way switch that controls the den light. At the doors from the living room the switches are in the living room. There is also a door going to a .

Jimmie

on 11/14/2009 8:13 AM (ET) Bill wrote the following:

That's the easiest one to fix. Just install an outlet in the hallway adjacent to one in the adjoining bedroom and tap off that one.

My entrance hall didnt have an outlet so I put one in the closet in the hallway where the vacuum is stored. very convenient since that hallway requires the most cleaning.

Jimmie

There are cheaper ones from other manufacturers.

TDD

I wonder if there's a mandate for ANY light to have a switch.

I remember reading about a bowling alley who, for some reason, wanted to turn off the lights. They couldn't find the switch(es)!

In the seven years of the bowling alley's existence, the lights had never been turned off and no one remembered where the switches were. Or if there even were any.