We have had it with the toilets in this house that have a hard time
flushing water let alone anything firmer. Any one care to recommend a
toilet that really does what it should do only using one flush rather
that three. Never understood how the fools in Washington came up with
the water saver toilet.
Of course might as well redo the floors and what ever else SWMBO comes
Assuming you do not have an underlying clog in the drain pipes or hard water
build up in your toilet jets, you may want to look into a pressure assisted
toilet or the Americal Standard "Champion" model as it has a large diameter
trap (this is the one that swallows a box of golf balls with one flush)
The Ultra Max is a good one. Check prices on eBay, too. I found a
seller on eBay, contacted them by phone and they gave me a much better
The soft-close seats are great. Impossible for them to slam.
I'd recommend a Toto Drake. It has an oversized flapper and a
powerful, quick flush.
I also tried the cheaper Glacier Bay Westminster but was disappointed
in its performace and will probably either get rid of it or relocate
it. Since the toilet will be there for a while, don't skimp.
I did notice a high incidence of toilets with sealing problems around
the plastic flush valve (below the flapper in the tank). One burr in
the mating porcelain, and you get dripping. I'd recommend taking
silicone sealant to that seam before you fill the tank with water, just
to save you troubles. Just be sure not to get any on the flapper
seating surface or the flapper.
My sister recently built a new house and has 4 bathrooms. 3 in the main
house and 1 in a guest "apartment". The 3 in the house are American
Standard and the guest one is a Toto to save money. She wishes she had
put the Toto in all of them. I stayed in the guest space and was very
impressed with that Toto plus it has that soft drop seat. After we came
home the kids were always banging our seat.
I work for Sloan, and you're right about the higher toilets - a lot of
people find them more comfortable. We call them ADA height toilets. I
know nobody asked me, I get alerts when our company name is used in
cyber space, but I thought I'd give you a little insight. To find a
distributor for Kohler or Gerber bowls that use the Sloan Flushmate,
you can go to www.flushmate.com and click on the button which says,
"Find Distributor". Sorry for butting in! If you'd like more info you
can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I enjoyed your post and thought I would add a few things.
I have 4 Kohler toilets with Sloan valves in my house. In 8 years only one
has need any part and Sloan sent it to me for free. The only disadvantage
to the toilets with Sloan valves is noise but the latest Gerbers installed
in my parent's house are much quieter than my Kohlers and would not bother
anyone. I don't know if newer Kohlers are quieter.
A great unspoken advantage to these valves is that they detect back pressure
and overflows are just about impossible. Plug the toilet and they stop
flushing instantly. Let the water do a little dissolving and flush as many
times as you want until it goes down with zero risk of overflow.
Finally, when we first moved into the house one of the 4 toilets worked
erratically. Sloan sent us every replacement part imaginable and Kohler
finally decided to replace the bowl. When we went to the distributor to
pick up the new bowl I noticed that the washer between the tank and bowl
were different than the one I had. Apparently the plumber has lost the
original washer and replaced it with another which wasted several days of my
life and many parts from Sloan and Kohler.
Be sure to check out Terry Love's plumbing site:
It has reviews, customer comments, and a forum. There appear to be a
lot of horror stories regarding the American Standard Champion.
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