Mains power voltage drop to reduce usage?

[Carlos E.R.]

Mine is zero, it runs on butane gas. When I use the electric water heater, it is 1 Kw, buty mine is half that.

Mine is 1.8 Kw, induction. Very fast.

Nope, nope, and maybe. :-)

[Carlos E.R.]

Nope.

[hubops]

Cost and reliability, I'd guess. The feeder voltage is well regulated. John T.

[Commander Kinsey]

Unusual with modern housing (including my 1979 one). It makes it harder for them to inspect/read the meter.

But they would lose the cost of a meter.

[Commander Kinsey]

Unusual.

WTF? That might heat a cup of coffee in a an hour.

Induction doesn't make it more than 100% efficient.

In the UK we have things called cookers. 2 ovens, 1 grill, and 4 hobs.

Sissies, sissies, and I thought the EU was banning gas?

[JNugent]

That used to happen in some regions, about sixty years ago. One telltale sign was that the picture on CRT TV tubes used to shrink in away from the edges of the screen. Granada TV's news magazine even had an article explaining it (circa 1962 / 1963).

[Commander Kinsey]

Spain, right? I watched a Top Gear episode about 10 years ago which showed completely empty areas of Spain where you'd all moved out.

[Commander Kinsey]

My local substation (was? they just replaced it after it got damaged due to somebody shorting something - no fuses, doh!) is fixed tap, but adjustable manually. They refused to adjust it to lower my high voltage because they'd give someone else low voltage.

[Commander Kinsey]

Ah, Granada....

Fucking s**te quality.

[Clare Snyder]

Running longer still reduces the instantaneous load - which is what the grid sees. They need to shed WATTS, not KwHours

[Clare Snyder]

You need ti understand the reason for reducing the voltage. A generator - or grid- can only supply so many watts of power at an instant in time. Reducing the voltage reduces the power drawn by a given l,oad. (P=VxA) It is particularly resistive loads that do what the PoCo wants - if the voltage across a resistive load drops, the current drops - and with the current drop you get a power drop. The power drop reduces the overload on the grid / generator - which is EXACTLY what the PoCo needs to do.

[Clare Snyder]

Anyone who has ever seen ANYTHING Kinsey has posted/written KNOWS how dumb he IS - not just how dumb he SOUNDS.

[Clare Snyder]

35 Kw max on my service

[The Natural Philosopher]

Commander Kinsey is stupid enough to think that would actually work.

[Martin Brown]

They still make up the bulk of the load that domestic consumers present to the grid.

Yes! In rural UK the main distribution is full three phase on the main lines but small villages are typically on spurs with just two live taps and earth. Farmers have been quoted insane prices to be put on 3 phase.

[Sylvia Else]

It's worse than that. All the time that the kettle is heating, it's losing heat to the environment. So reduce the voltage, and thus power, and it takes more energy to boil a kettleful, since more is wasted in the process.

Sylvia.

[Brian Gaff]

Don't be daft, most modern gear has switch mode psus and they usually have a very vvery wide range of voltages, so they can build one model for the world. Older gear, like I use for hi if etc, as they still have tactile controls will be hit most and older turntables that use the 50 hz in the uk to make them run at the right speed would be unusable. However few of these about. If the switch mode supplies are designed with the right disidisipation, I see no reason why anything from 110v ac 60 hz and 250v ac 50 hz not to be possible. I'm sure Samsung TVs can do this, or at least most of them can.

Most chargers do this and things like shavers and toothbrushes do, cos it says so on the bottom I'm told. Brian

[Carlos E.R.]

:-D

That would have to be tested. :-)

The thing is, the rate of heat loss is proportional to the temperature.

[Carlos E.R.]

It is not a modern house. And precisely because of that, a smart meter was very welcome. I no longer have to open them the door to read the meter.

And me would be without electricity for weeks.

[Carlos E.R.]

Not here.

Here, an electrical water flash heater is very uncommon.

It is a hot water tank. Very common here. It heats during the night, on a clock. And as butane is cheaper, I have it disabled.

You are badly informed :-)

I have two gas hobs, two induction hobs, one independent oven, one microwave.

An induction hob uses less electricity and heats faster.

We have so much gas that we have to tell gas ships to wait for days to be unloaded while we burn some gas to make free space to get more gas :-D