I must have great eyes, but sitting closer is not a bad idea. You
really need to be less than 10ft away with 1080p and 50" to apreciate
it best. A 50" might be 45" wide across, for 3d 1.4-1.7 x width is
best and thats means sitting 6ft away.
On Nov 18, 9:41 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Excuse me, but I thought the OP came here precisely for the reason of
asking what other people thought and what their experiences had
been. As for being a critical viewer, if you do a bit of googling
you will find plenty of actual side by side comparison testing done by
credible authorities in the AV world that will agree with what I and
Ron and many others have said. Particularly since the OP is talking
about a 32" TV, not a 50" one.
Then I guess the OP should set up a blind testing lab, because that's
the only way he's going to be able to see if he can actually tell the
difference. Somehow I don't think he's gonna do that, nor does he
appear to be an AV enthusiast concerned about a small potential
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:20:44 -0800 (PST), email@example.com wrote:
Opinions are not facts. That needed to be pointed out.
There is a factual and scientifically supportable difference between
720p and 1080p. The fact that you either can't tell the difference, or
don't think it is important, are subjective opinions, not objective
On Nov 18, 12:42 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
OK, post this scientific evidence that says that the human eye can
distinguish the difference on the same brand of TV with the only
difference being that one is a 720 and the other is a 1080. Using the
same source, and from a distance of 10-12 ft on a 50" or smaller
Here's what CNET, which I've always found to be a credible authority
on these issues, has to say on the subject:
"9. Side by side, how do 720p and 1080p TVs match up in head-to-head
We spend a lot of time looking at a variety of source material on a
variety of TVs in our video lab here at CNET's offices in New York.
When I wrote my original article over three years ago, many 1080p TVs
weren't as sharp as they claimed to be on paper. By that, I mean a lot
of older 1080p sets couldn't necessarily display all 2 million-plus
pixels in the real world--technically, speaking, they couldn't
"resolve" every line of a 1080i or 1080p test pattern.
That's changed in the last few years. Virtually all 1080p sets are now
capable of fully resolving 1080i and 1080p material, though not every
1080p TV is created equal. As our resident video guru, Senior Editor
David Katzmaier explains in his HDTV resolutions feature, Blu-ray
serves up another video format, 1080p/24, and not every TV properly
displays 1080p/24. The 24 refers to the true frame rate of film-based
content, and displaying it in its native format is supposed to give
you a picture exactly as the director intended you to see it (for a
full explanation, click here).
Whether you're dealing with 1080p/24 or standard 1080p/60, doesn't
alter our overall views about 1080p TVs. We still believe that when
you're dealing with TVs 50 inches and smaller, the added resolution
has only a very minor impact on picture quality. In our tests, we put
720p (or 768p) sets next to 1080p sets, then feed them both the same
source material, whether it's 1080i or 1080p, from the highest-quality
Blu-ray player. We typically watch both sets for a while, with eyes
darting back and forth between the two, looking for differences in the
most-detailed sections, such as hair, textures of fabric, and grassy
plains. Bottom line: It's almost always very difficult to see any
difference--especially from farther than 8 feet away on a 50-inch TV.
On Nov 20, 7:15 am, email@example.com wrote:
I posted the same article, but it didn't seem to make any difference
to some people here. Seems like a lot of people are making the
argument for 1080 because they got sucked in and are trying to make
themselves feel better because they wasted their money. If you spend
enough money on a TV you will see whatever you want to see.
I love to have these "experts" do a blind video test.
Katzmaier, who is cited, didn't write the CNET article. The article
just states that Katzmaier said it and it isn't a direct quote. It's
the writer trying to convey what Katzmaier meant. Regardless, if
you read the rest of the sentences in context around that one
inaccuracy, it's clear what they meant.
I and I'm sure Ron would be happy to see any sources you have that
have done actual side by side testing of 720 vs 1080 displays, that
say they can see a noticeable difference, particularly on screens
around 32", which was size from the original question.
Yeah, and you snipped the part that said it only made a difference if
you where sitting closer to the TV, which took the comment out of
Whatever, there are PLENTY of other sites on the web that say the SAME
hey, all I know is what I see. I am not trying to justify any purchase
to myself because I am happy with both of my TV/monitors (one a
Viewsonic 720p and the other a Samsung 1080p) but the difference between
the two is quite noticeable and if I could only keep one and had to
choose one or the other it would take no time at all to pick the Samsung.
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
So would I. Samsung makes arguably the best LCD on the market.
Also, I would say the difference that you are noticing is the fact
that the Samsung has a better overall picture, and it's not
necessarily the difference in resolution that you are seeing unless
you are sitting right on top of them.
Go to a Walmart and look at a Sanyo 1080p and compare it to any other
TV in the store regardless of whether not it's a 720 or 1080.
Sanyo's have a washed out picture and are horrible looking.
The same could be said about Westinghouse. Horrible picture.
*I* can certainly tell the difference between the two small tv/
monitors that I have, one 720p and one 1080p. With the same source
(1080i cable box) the difference, to me, is noticeable and somewhat
obvious. Diff'rent strokes etc.
Using as a computer monitor, of course, the 1080p one just blows the
720p into the weeds. No comparison whatsoever.
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