I live in small 2 story 1400 sqft house in Toronto Ontario. My
Coolman furnace blower died out and I am getting it replaced. I am
also replacing my 1.5 ton Lennox Central Air Condition as well, it is
working fine, but I think it is cheaper to replace both Furnace and AC
I got a quote for both Furnace and Central AC installed for:
Keeprite 2 Stage High Efficiency 92% Furnace 75000 BTU for $2600
including GST (model IIS 90)
Ameristar (American Standard) 1.5 ton 13 SEER with coil for $1900
5 Years Parts and Labour Included on both units.
Also I can deffer payment for 1 year no cost.
All funds are in Canadian dollars, as of August 2007
Please let me know if I am getting a good deal, or I am being ripped
You're getting ripped off by at least $1900, because you're replacing
perfectly good A/C. It should not make a diff to the installer. If he told
you otherwise, get another one.
Even if your old A/C is Very low efficiency, in Ontario you'll never recover
the cost of new one, based on savings.
In my neighborhood (in Midwest) there are several A/C units that date back
to early 1970's - still working fine. The SEER rating may be 10, or a bit
below, but they are simple to fix and don't crash every time there's a storm
somewhere on the East Coast :-)
The only pocketbook that suffers, is the one of the con artists that have
not sold them are replacement.
yeah but.......a 19 year old AC is at the end of its design life, and it
will get increasingly pricey to repair as it gets to the bitter end. If
a new furnace is going in it is the good time to do AC. Although
electricity is cheap in Canada, how long would you bet it will stay that
way? I would price high efficiency units, online pricing as a guide
tells me that a 16 seer unit is hundreds more, and while it may not pay
back at todays prices, it might at the prices 3 years from now.
I usually run my Central AC from End of May until somewhere end of
[We do get some cold days in May and June, so I would say May/June I
keep it on for 15 days]
So my guess is upgrading from I think SEER 8 to SEER 13 would reduce
AC electricity usage by at least 30% which is roughly $100-$150 for
Electricity is not that cheap anymore. It is about 0.10 per KW
Have to differ with you on "pricy to rapair" - older systems are cheaper to
repair. And if the comressor goes -well, that't the time to spend moeny.
A/C not being a critial item, you can replace it when needed.
There's no way to tell if this guy is saving anything from having A/C put it
in with furnace. The two systems only share some space where the coil sits.
Maybe some sheetmetal work is saved, but that's small change.
In fact if he does it in off-season, he may save more. A/C systems are
impossible to compare, from one unit to another and one contractor to
You simply get a new one, when you need one. All the savings from
efficiency are under ideal conditions and few people realize, what the
brochure or salesman claims. If you work in the business, you know that
I'm glad there are people here who work on HVAC, but most tend to be biased
to selling you all they can. It makes their pocket a bit heavier that way.
This is the IIS 90 model from Keeprite website
Some websites refere to it as C9MPT
What would be a resonable prices for this Furncance installed?
How about the 1.5 ton Ameristar AC 13 Seer?
For another $150, I can get the 2 ton Ameristar AC 13 SEER, Do you
think it is better to get a slightly oversized? I hear it is the same
coil for the 1.5 ton and 2 ton AC.
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