My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.
I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.
Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.
I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:14:57 PM UTC-4, Metspitzer wrote:
Well that's just plain stupid. Telling him to apply to the Post Office I mean.
Considering all the whining about being broke you hear in the news, common sense
says they're not hiring.
She's not the webmaster for the US Postal Service. She is a sorter, counter
clerk, letter carrier, customer service rep, maybe even the local postmaster. Of
course she wouldn't be able to help you with website problems.
Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's
not much of an opportunity.
Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans, then for
qualified disabled, etc., ... There's essentially zero chance even if
were hiring (which as you've found out they're not). Hell, they
damn-near closed a bunch of POs where while of relatively low volume
they're where they are actually more critical for service owing to large
distances and lack of other services being available. This is largest
community for radius of nearly 100 mi by far and they've completely
disbanded any local sorting of mail even for local delivery--it now all
is trucked 200 mi to Amarillo, then 200 mi back to end up, literally,
next door. But, they laid off all but 3 clerks and a couple of grunts
that are part-time to load/unload trucks.
The "essentially zero chance" is simply not true. Veterans, etc. do get
extra points on the test but someone can still outscore them if they are
really sharp. In fact, my daughter and my neighbor both did at separate
locations and both got jobs.
*My letter carrier told me that the bins are coming in presorted now so they
don't need to sort before they deliver. My post office no longer hires
temps or part timers. If someone is out on vacation or sickness, someone
else doubles up and they still have to be back by 5:pm. No more overtime.
I wouldn't recommend the post office for a job to any of my relatives. Very
little room for advancement.
The USPS is solvent, Congress is forcing them to fund pensions for
employees they have not yet hired, and may never hire.
"...anytime the government needs cash to pay for outside programs and
budgets, they can dip into these funds, knowing there will always be
cash flowing in."
Exactly. And if Congress has anything to say about it future vets
will be begging UPS, etc., for jobs at slave wages.
Don't put in a city name, and don't select a job category. Looking at
Georgia I found 23 hits for jobs all over the state.
Go back to http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm
and use the link titled "Start your eCareer profile"
Any organization the size of the PO will always have some jobs to
fill, even with things like vet's preference, transfers, layoffs, etc.
Like any job hunt, you do need to be in the right place at the right
time to even be considered.
Good luck to your nephew.
BTW, has he looked into other gov't jobs ?? City, county, state,
He really hasn't tried many places yet. I have a program called
Clipmate that will rapidly paste pre stored information into data
fields. I am going to show how to use that so he can easily fill in
his personal information. I just need a few leads on good places to
It would be nice if he could find something locally, but I already
have told him that he will most likely have to travel to the big city
to get a good job.
Good for you. You're well on your way to a career in computer
I tired it for Maryland and got 6 hits, 4 were for auto mechanics or
technicians, 1 was for a tractor-trailer driver, and 1 was for a city
carrier assistant, in zip codes that start with 216 or 219.
As a reference, Baltimore and some suburbs are 212
Okay, so I clicked apply. If I get this job, no more staying up late
Firefox prevented it from opening up a pop-up window, but there was a
message and I said okay.
They want me to register. That would just confuse them. Already
for the last 5 years I get calls fromt the public school telling me
about PTA meetings etc. They think I have a kid in school.
I tied it with no state. Go up to the blank line at the top of the
states and highlight that.
And got about 90 hits, nationwide. I've never heard of Van Horne
Iowa or Harvey, N.D. or a lot of the other places listed. If he's
willing to go to one of those places, maybe they'll hire him.
There are a lot of jobs in the big city, but other jobs are found in
rural areas. Like for doctors. Your nephew's not a doctor, maybe?
Ask someone at the USPS if my speculation has any truth to it.
And some of these unheard of towns are suburbs of well known cities.
Even Van Horne is iiuc less than 20 miles from Ceder Rapids.
Still, the way to find a job or anything is to not assume everything
is a deadend.
A google search using the keywords
United States Postal Service employment
brings the following link as the very first hit:
which has a link to the job search url that you found, shown below.
If your nephew can't figure out how to do a basic google search, he's
not qualified to hold a job at the Post Office.
Well, duh. The Job Search tool first wants you to select from its
drop-down menus the geographic location where you are looking for
work, and then what position you want. It then searches its database
to retrieve any matches. If there are no matches, the process stops
there, because there's no point continuing. It told you there are no
such jobs meeting your search criteria. They aren't going to collect
applications for nonexistent job openings.
Frankly, if your nephew can't figure out how to perform such a search,
and if he has no idea what the job titles mean, he's not qualified for
any of the jobs. Tell him to spend the summer learning how to do job
searches, including researching the places he's thinking about working
for and the types of jobs he's thinking he would be capable of doing.
He'll need that information to look halfway intelligent in any job
interviews he gets.
Finally, federal jobs, including the USPS, give hiring priority to
veterans. Since we now have hundreds of thousands of veterans entering
the workforce, and the USPS is shedding workers, not adding them, your
high school graduate nephew hasn't got a remotely realistic chance of
getting a job there. Maybe a temp job for the Christmas holiday rush,
but even that would be a long shot.
Point your web browser at http://about.usps.com/careers .
Select the link over on the right side of the page entitled "Search our
latest job openings"
When that page opens, enter the city and/or state you are interested in.
Then just select the "start" button to see all hiring opportunities in
the area you've selected.
If you know the name or title of the postion(s) you are interested in,
you can enter them in the "keywords" text box to narrow your search
results, but using the wrong keywords may exclude results that would
interest your. I would take a look at the full results for your geographic
area since the keyword search feature is not so great for certain jobs.
In order to apply, you must first create a profile and have a valid
email address. Create your profile by selecting the link from the
about.usps.com/careers page. Then, while viewing the job listing of interest,
select the "Apply" link at the upper left and follow the prompts from there.
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)
Try UPS if travel distance isn't too far. Turnover is high because
they work you hard, but it was good money when I did it for 3 1/2
years while going to college. It's boring as hell, but probably no
more so than a non-letter carrier PO job.
I washed and fueled trucks so had it pretty easy. Loading/unloading
is tougher, and paid a bit more.
Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.
But if he's a hustler and at the right hub, he can move to package car
driver and do +$70k a year. Too brutal for non-hustlers.
It's tough for kids with just HS and no connections to help them.
One of my sons just did HS, because he's not cut out for college.
But he loves cars and is mechanically gifted and a hustler. Still in
HS he was clerking PT at a dept store. I had a windshield replaced at
a car shop and told the manager my kid was good, and looking for a
job. He said, "Send him in." That started him off, and he's a heavy
suspension guy now. Just repaired a NYPD 9/11 truck in the shop he
works for. Makes about $20 an hour and is happy with his work.
The main thing is being at least satisfied with your job, so best you
can do is find out what will satisfy your nephew. Then it's really up
to him. Good on you that you're helping him.
But every boy should spend at least 3 months between 15 and 25 working
hard physically. It builds muscles that even if loafs for the rest of
his life, he'll still be stronger than without those 3 months, or a
year, or whatever.
I had one summer job putting down steel for concrete reinforecment for
an xway, and it made a tremendous difference. And it was outdoors
too, which was nice.
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