Being final; what is this understanding?
-- Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes."
Steve you certainly have a lot of time to spend on this board. It seems to me that your subsequent messages reveal you as a sick, hateful and malicious person who is just looking for an excuse to torture restrained and helpless animals. What a coward!
Being the coward that you are, you fantasize about undercover and secret ways of injuring others to make yourself feel whole. Like using this board anonymously to inflict pain on others. You've had a long history of problems with dogs, and with people too. No doubt the neighbors will throw a party when you move.
Show your written ravings to the animal control officers and to the local police so that they can help you. (Your writings shown below.)
Society would best be served if you were in a prison psychiatric ward for the rest of your worthless and miserable life.
Steve B wrote: I have sent for a very large ultrasonic generator. It is used in tandem with three others, and in harmony, they will cause people to have a headache for a week . . . I can't wait to hit the switch on this baby. It is noiseless, and is mobile. I can drive around the whole neighborhood and nail each loudmouth dog with a good jolt of its own medicine.
Steve B wrote: I have witnessed caning in foreign countries . . . I believe it would be a good punishment in the US for certain things, like bonehead pet owners, graffiti sprayers, etc.
Steve B wrote: I had a problem with the neighborhood dogs. Rigged up a metal can and let them baptize it for a week. Hooked up the Fi-Shock, and now most of the dogs won't even walk on my side of the street. Hey, it's clearly on MY property.
Steve B wrote: I have ordered a ultrasonic generator from the LRAD units . . . Next time I hear these bonehead dogs wailing, I'll give them something to really wail about. We are in the process of moving to Southern Utah. I've had it with Las Vegas . . . the place has gone to the dogs. Or, in current lingo ........... a los perros. I'm sure that anyone who would leave their dog out for a week in wintertime with no shelter must be some kind of nut, and it's been a long time since I've had to shoot anyone.
Steve B wrote: I'll go you one better. Buy the best KillAll herbicide you can find. Put it in a spray pump can FULL STRENGTH. Go put on your blue Dickies pants and shirt with a white cap. Add false mustache and silver grasshopper eyes twenty something shades. Walk up to target's nice manicured yard, as any good pest control person would do. Write what you want in their lawn, but pausing to appear to squirt pesticide here and there. It leaves a lasting impression. In some cases, up to a year.
Do you leave members of your family tied up in the yard without food for a week at a time in freezing weather?
CWM
Steve -
Shoot the damned dog, and leave the head on Marybeth's front step.
The police already know how frustrated the public is with animal control. Recently, I had problems with a neighbor whose dog was actually digging holes in my vegetable garden. I began by asking him politely to keep his dog on his property. Then, it escalated to the animal control department, which did nothing after a dozen phonecalls. I even e-mailed them pictures of the dog IN MY GARDEN. I finally walked over to his house and informed him, in front of his family, that the next time I had the opportunity, the dog would be killed. It is *legal* to do this in New York, if an animal is destroying food crops, which this animal was.
By the way, the dog criminal's excuse was one I'd heard plenty of times from other idiots: "Gee....it just gets out of the yard somehow. I can't figure it out." Bullshit.
An hour later, a cop showed up at my door. The dog criminal had told them I'd threatened to kill him. I explained to the cop that this was ridiculous, and that I'd promised to kill the dog. I also showed him a copy of NY's game laws, which he was familiar with. He reminded me that in my neighborhood, it was illegal to discharge firearms. I told him I was aware of the safety issue, and would not need any sort of firearms. He said "Let me see what I can do. Will you be here for a while?" He came back a little later and said there wouldn't be any further problems.
Whatever he said to them it solved the problem.
OK, Steve, first you need to ascertain if the neighbors have someone coming in to care for the dogs while they're out of town. Leave a note on the door(s) saying you'd like to talk with that person, and see if they'll call you or leave a number for you to call. Explain the barking, ask when the neighbors will be back, and explain the noise needs to be dealt with. NOW.
If you don't get a response, either the people taking care of the dogs are rude and uncaring, or the dogs have been left on their own. I doubt the latter, as no one wants to come home from a trip and find dog excrement all over their house...I don't care if they did use puppy pads, after two days those suckers have to be replaced.
So someone has to be visiting the house regularly, and they need to know there's a problem, and they need to fix it. They can leave a radio on in the house on a station that might calm the dogs (in other words, no partisan talk radio!), or hopefully do something that will, if not stop it completely, at least lessen it enough that you can sleep.
It's not up to you to stop the dogs from barking, but it is up to you to make sure those taking care of the dogs deal with it.
Unfortunately, you may be out of luck this time, but DEFINITELY talk with your neighbors when they return and let them know there was a problem with their dogs while they were gone and that you certainly hope they will take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Steve, I must have missed the post that said they do this on a REGULAR basis. The post I read said that they were doing this and it was believed they were abandoned and in immediate danger,etc.
I agree, that barking dogs will absolutely drive you up the wall.
I do rescue and education work with our local goverment and teach others how to affect the laws in their areas too, and also cannot stand a constant barking dog.
My x neighbors across the street ( my bedroom window is at the front of my house also) had 4 dogs that they left outside 24/7 and those dogs barked constantly at everything.
I still do not know how the people slept at night but being the inconsiderate lowlifes they were, I quess they just turned out the world.
I did not sleep for the first 8 years I lived here and yes it will make you crazy. One I recommend you get a noise machine like I have. I have an alarm clock/combo noise machine that makes the sounds of the ocean/birds/white noise etc. That helped cover the noise of the dogs.
The problem is not the dogs, dogs being dogs, thats how they communicate. A bored, frightened cold hungry dog does what it knows to do. Its the same as us talking.
Ok that said, the dog and cat problems we complain about, ( running loose, barking etc) are NOT ANIMAL problems, they are PEOPLE PROBLEMS.
I suggest that IF this is an ongoing problem and you KNOW these dogs are not abandoned and in an emergency situation, I would contact first your animal control to see what the laws and ordinances concerning this are.
Some of these come under NOISE orndinances not specifically animal ordinances.
I had good success with neighbors excessionly noisey outside dogs by calling the police and saying that I am worried something bad is happening like a fire, or burgulary or something. ANd that is true, becuase you don't know what their carrying on about. After a couple visits by the police, they usually get the hint.
Now in my city, if we go thru the city/animal control per se, there is a requirement for a complaint that it is signed by 2 separate neighbors of the violation/complaint. That is to keep people from making life miserable for people that don't simply like and Animal Control and the courts from being swamped with petty personal problems.
The first suggestion is to ask you neighbors to please bring the dogs in at night so you can sleep at least.
Ear plugs, clock/noise machine
Call the city about noise ordinances. ALL have something.
If they dogs keep barking call the POLICE and tell them you are worried that there is something bad going on there. And its possible there IS! AND you don't have to give your name and ask to remain anonymous if you want.
Call animal control and your local Humane Society both.
Also if worse comes to worse, contact an attorney. YOU have rights too.
I feel your pain, but please don't be tempted to take it out on the dogs, they are the innocents in this war. BUT you might ask the neighbors if they want to find homes for them, becuase by the sounds of it, they don't really care about them at all anyway.
And as far as the others with the cruel, stupid, redneck, neanterthal methods, I wouldn't recommend it. It is now a fel> > Hi Steve,
Well, yeah, if they deserve it. Doesn't everybody?
SNIPPED DRIVEL
How perfectly Stalinist Marybeth is. You do't agree with her, so you must be shipped to an insane aslm for he rest of your life.
What a hoot.
THE "TWO-COW EXPLANATION" OF WHAT MAKES...
A COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
A FASCIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.
-- Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
You've never been confronted by a rabid dog or even shot one ( it is very humane) . You never shot a deadly snake; after it posed to strike, while being 10 miles in a swamp. You never have been in a position to defend yourself by force. If you've done these things, it does not warrant a nut house.
I use gun oil for cologne. If you put a dab hind your ears I might be attracted to you.
-- Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
That we know.
If they are indoors and you can't see them, would you shoot up the whole house trying to hit them?
You snipped most of my post, including my point. It's in this thread somewhere.
Yes..........barking (constantly) in any situation is a violation here. on their ass, inside, outside.....it don't matter until you try to get some compliance from the guy next door.
You know the answer. The OP frustration would not limit a shot over the fence... if outside, I saw his point. I've been at wits-end. Did I punish the animal? No, but I cannot shoot the owner. I suggested declaring a 911 "duress" call for the pets; not knowing inside/outside conditions. It's in my post somewhere.
If you had no comment for the *dog situation itself*; being important in the thread - I'm sorry I snipped in the wrong place...............
-- Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
Update:
I have filed a grievance with the Neighborhood Justice Center, which means this goes on paper, and will have to have a legal disposition. This is handled by the zoning department, and all complaints have to be legally finalized.
I did learn from a neighbor who said he had a similar problem and went through gyrations for six weeks. He was told by someone to report the odor of dog shit to the Health Department. Next day, problem solved.
I have located about six neighbors who are tired of listening to the dog and who will sign the complaints, so now it will go to the DAs office, and they will be fined.
BUT, more importantly, if it still continues, I don't have to do this crackhead tapdance through the legal channels. Just call, give them the case number, and citations will be issued.
And all this because the last time I went through this, I was a nice neighbor and said, "Well, the dog quit barking, so we don't need to start a war in the neighborhood." When I got to this point, I stopped. Not this time.
Well, cowboy, if you want to rodeo, I'm getting the first ride this time!
Anyone who leaves their dog outside and goes on a week's trip deserves anything that happens.
Lucky I'm not the type who would just "neurtalize" the dog.
BTW, I saw the dog roaming in front of my house this morning, and called him in. Maybe the owners are trying to get rid of the dog by letting him roam. Before this, he has been behind a block wall, and I have seen him for maybe five minutes in five years. I wouldn't doubt that these pieces of chickenshit would get rid of the dog in that way.
Tune in for updates..............
Steve
Definitely post updates. It's always a pleasure to hear of dog owners being made to suffer.
I like to see all irresponsible pet owners suffer...beats seeing the animals suffer.
Cheri
This is good to know, as it was not the case a few years ago when I was in your situation. Before it was just a red tape and no final result.
-- Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
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