hi. i'm not disputing the facts of your experience regarding the
polygamous clan you lived among, experiences on the highway with the
uhp, etc. however, i would say that my experiences have differed from
yours. i've lived in utah over a decade, married into a mormon family
(my wife is ex-mormon), i work with mormons, live with mormons, etc.
my wife's family has both strong pioineer and polygamous roots (her
great grandfather's family was in mexico for a bit and they even have
some cool stories about pancho villa). neither of us have ever
experienced nor even heard of some of the views that you mention
i would totally agree with the idea that utah is probably closer
to a theocracy than any state in the union, but in the sense of the
people being very conservative, religious republicans not insane
gentile haters. i would also agree that they have a strong
persecutory complex from their early history and that many of them
believe they have the one true religion.
however, i do not believe that the positions you describe above
are held by the majority of mormons that a person would meet in utah.
rather, they would be an extreme view.
back to lurking...
Yeah; my wife went Jack too- then returned to the Church later in her life,
very ardent now.
Now give them a gun and see what happens.
The extreme view is just that- the extreme of a scale that starts from
'neutral'. You don't need to meet but one of the extreme ones, and 'neutral'
isn't available at all.
I'm probably more affrontive to them than you are as well. It's pretty
obvious, from 50 ft. away, that I'm not Mormon- not true with them at all.
I've been through that strip of land in a car, on a bike, and through parts
of it on foot - met plently of people along the way. Never found there to
be any peril.
Nah, they're just really uptight people.
None of the mormons I know are like this. Quite the opposite, most of them
are quite friendly and helpful, often to the point where it's annoying.
Granted I don't know what they talk about in secret but frankly don't care
True for every other major religion.
Just for future reference, is there any group that *isn't* out to get you?
Obviously, it doesn't impinge on you much- not so for a lot of other people.
I've only identified one group that's 'out to get me', and that's corrupt
government officials here in the Denver area. And I've proven it time and
If I knew there was a nest of vipers in your path, I'd warn you about them
Yikes, I hate to T-off on the various religious sects because reason ain't
a priority with any of 'em anyway, ay, but the Mormon version of "history"
has to go, Stormin' Mormon.
Let's not kid ourselves this stuff about Joseph Smith discovering a "lost"
scripture and being able to read it suddenly with golden spectacles
represents any kind of factual information.
That's about a lame an origins story as I've ever seen.
Even the Scientologist scam with alien beings involved has more
pizzazz- you Mormons need some aliens to spice this thing up.
The golden specs routine just ain't making it.
Why would I need to learn more about myself if I'm already all
When you send a message, make sure it applies to me also. Trust me,
you don't want to be wasting my time.
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