Charlotte NC said it was a car theft thing when they passed a law you could
not leave a parked car running without the driver in it. They did not
mention air quality even though it is the largest city in the state.
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:31:19 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
I've seen both emissions and theft given as the reason. Emissions
doesn't make much sense, because you can be sitting in the car and
then you're permitted to "emit."
The laws/regs I've seen about it usually say something like "idling
unattended with keys in the ignition."
It's was a bad practice anyway when cars would sometimes shift out of
neutral and take off.
I don't like it because it's bad for the engine. Runs richer longer
in the winter than just driving away, which warms the engine faster.
Where it's hot, opening the door and windows when you start out is
probably 5 times more efficient and faster than asking the A/C to heat
up 140 degree air.
Remote start is really totally unnecessary and a simple luxury.
No different than granite counters or diamond jewelry.
My wife has used it on one of our cars in the winter before I
convinced her to start parking it in our unheated garage.
That car is gone now, and I would never have an aftermarket remote
start installed, because it complicates the electrical system and a
fault like a bad connection can strand you or cause other issues.
If it's in the car you buy, you might just be stuck with it.
You want greenies to make sense? LOL! It's also a noise thing. Presumably,
when you're in the car, you have a reason to be there. The car is idling for
"no reason". Trucks often idle overnight, so the law is passed to make idling
Different law, different reasons.
How does a car shift out of neutral on its own? An automatic should be in
park and a manual shifting by itself?
With fuel injection, it shouldn't run rich6 for very long and you really don't
want to drive it until it's at least off "high idle".
Works well enough for me.
You say that like luxuries are bad things? That's what most of us work for.
It's always an option (on the few cars it's offered on at all).
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:26:40 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
My foreman at U.S. Steel had his leg broken by his Ford when it ran
over him at South Works. 1968. Swore he had it in Park.
Besides that, some autos will idle motionless in drive or reverse,
just waiting for the dog, cat, or child to push on the gas pedal. No
shifting required. I like some creep.
On 10/16/2012 6:07 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I usually read everything I get my hands on when I have to sit and wait
somewhere like a doctor's office. I was at a truck stop one day waiting
for something or other and I picked up a trucker's magazine which had an
article about states and municipalities passing laws prohibiting trucks
being left idling. The enforcers were going after trucks that were
waiting to be unloaded in various shipping areas like shipyards. The
solution is APU's for trucks which are not considered illegal to run.
The drivers were leaving their trucks idling to keep them warm/cool
inside the cab/sleeper depending on the weather and to run their
computers and entertainment gear, etc. A lot of truckers are installing
auxiliary power units in their trucks to keep from running afoul of the
I always install remote starter myself when I get neew car. I get
after market one for the particular vehicle and it is usually a one
afternoon job. It is not a luxury item living in a cold winter zone.
Don't think I would ever install one again myself. I did it about 15 years
ago. Not fun, but appreciated having it greatly. Until 1 1/2 years ago,
having manual windows is all I had except or auto start. Now, my truck has
everything, except the heated washer fluid does not work.
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