Reminds me (credit due to another unknown):
"Yesterday, scientists for Health Canada suggested that the results of
a recent analysis revealed the presence of female hormones in beer,
and suggested that men should take a look at their beer consumption.
The theory states that drinking beer makes men turn into women.
To test the theory, 100 men were each fed 6 pints of beer within a
one-hour period. It was then observed that 100% of the men gained
weight, talked excessively without making sense, became overly
emotional, couldn't drive, failed to think rationally, argued over
nothing, had to sit down while urinating and refused to apologize when
Buying and using it are two very different things.
Both of the HF's near me were out of them earlier this week when I
found the coupon. They are back-ordered on the website.
One store had 3 come in this morning and the other had 2.
I'm going on vacation in 2 weeks, so I bought one while the stock was
available knowing that I can easily return it if the reviews warrant.
I haven't seen any of this type of cargo carrier come with safety
chains. The center tube on the AL carrier is in fact a heavy wall steel
tube that fits within an aluminum extrusion. The steel tube is secured
in the vehicle's receiver with a standard 5/8" pin which is plenty
strong. The steel tube is secured in the aluminum extrusion by several
decent sized bolts. There is little chance of any sort of catastrophic
failure without a lot of advance warning.
No, but this is not like a trailer that can come off the hitch. This
goes into the hitch receiver, like a big drawbar. If you put the pin
in the receiver hole and the clip through the end of the pin, it's not
going to fall off unless the whole hitch does.
On second thought, a weak point might be the aquare center pipe.
Someone might violate the 500? pound weight limit, especially he might
put the extra weight at the rear of the carrier, where it would have
more leverage on the center pipe at the front where it enters the
receiver. Or he might load it to capacity and then lean on it while
tying a rope. Or he might think it's a chair. Or it might be
defective. I can see it bending, so far that the rear of the carrier
drags on the ground. I guess after writing this, I still can't see it
breaking there, so still no need for safety chains. I drive a
convertible, but surely even with a closed car and the radio playing,
one could hear the carrier dragging on the ground before it broke off,
which I think would take hundreds of miles.
I had a pair of cast safety stands, from Western Auto, but sold
elsewhere too, rated at 6000 pounds a pair I think. All that was on
them was a compact car, about 2000 pounds, when one of them collapsd,
sort of slowly but nowhere near slow enough to get out if someone were
under the car. Things don't always meet spec.
You brought up a number of good points - standing on it, using it as a
chair, etc. but you left off one of the items mentioned in the
"14. Be aware of dynamic loading! Suddenly dropping or bouncing a load
on the Cargo Carrier may create, for a brief instant, an excess load,
which may result in damage to the product and/or personal injury.
Additionally, if the vehicle hits a bump, a slight play in the
receiving hitch or a movement in the load could result in a momentary
dynamic loading effect that could dramatically increase the actual
weight load. Check the hitch-to-Carrier connection for any looseness.
This momentary dynamic loading effect could result in damage to the
Cargo Carrier, the load and possible personal injury."
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
A well written warning.
Yes I left them out but fwiw, I do know about them.
I lay the sod down gently on the rack or the previous piece of sod. I
lay the file cabinet on the rack gently.
When driving I took smooth streets.
And I didn't call it dymanmic loading but I know about bumps:
About 30 years ago, I moved, in two consecutive weeks, two spinet
pianos on the back of my car, a full-size Pontica Catalina
convertible. I only drove about 10 MPH then, except when I saw a bump
or hole coming, when I slowed to 3 or 4 (they were small bumps), and
except on smooth streets when i got up to 20 or 25, and kept my eye
peeled for holes in the pavement. I put a full-size mattress on
the trunk and lay the spinet piano on that, with part of the piano
overhanging where the top folds into storage. Then tied it in with
100 feet of cotton clothesline, knotted frequently. One isn't
supposed to move an upright (including a spinet) on its back or front,
and isn't supposed to move a grand in normal position, anyhow, because
it's dangerous to the sound board, which if broken ruins the piano.
Pianos should always be moved with the sound board vertical.
I moved one half-way across Brooklyn, and the other from the middle of
Brooklyn to West 85th St. in NYC, 15 miles of city streets, with no
re: "A well written warning"
...and pretty surprising for a Harbor Freight manual!
My favorites are the "standard disclaimers" sometimes included with
products - not just HF products, but they do it too.
Do I really need to wear ANSI approved impact safety googles while
loading and unloading the Cargo Carrier?
The instructions say I do.
Safety chain? Why would I want that?
If this thing falls off and all my stuff goes tumbling down the
highway, I don't want the evidence still attached to my car. ;-)
On a related note...
My buddy had his motor home hit by a drunk driver - a hit and run
while he was parked and sleeping. He woke up when the guy hit the
camper head on and watched as the driver backed up, turned the wheel
slightly and then drove down the side of the motor home, wiping out
his awning, grill, tables and chairs.
He climbed out of the motor home, surveyed the damage and called 911.
Buddy: "A guy just crashed into my parked motor home and took off. I
have his license plate.
911 operator: "You were able to get his license plate number? That's
Buddy: "I said...I have his *license plate*. He left his bumper lying
in front of my motor home."
The drunk's insurance company didn't put up much of a fight.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:58:16 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
I have a steel one, and I'm sorry I bought it. It's too heavy to
carry back and forth to the car. If I could store it right where I
parked the car, that wouldn't really be a problem.
So I'm planning on selling it, and I've already bought one that only
has the spine and two ribs, and you make your own floor from a piece
of wood. (It came in a ruptured box and I didn't notice for months. I
was able to make the parts that were missing. I thought that was
easier than making the vendor, probably JCWhitney, run through hoops
trying to get the parts from the maker, plus I had waited months.)
As to you, since it's aluminum, weight won't be a problem.
You probably also don't have a convertible. When I put 15 pieces of
damp sod on the carrier, with my car door open, the car bent and I
couldn't shut the door. I ended up putting half of them in the back
seat and then the front door shut.
I also carried a 2-drawrer file cabinet on it, along with another one
in the back seat. I think it could have handled 4-drawer just as well.
I didn't see any change in handling, but I probably only went 60 with
the sod, 40 with the file cabinet.
I put additional pinch point tape on it, striped reflective tape on
the sides and corners.
Works like a charm, at least in the driveway. Moving the carrier moves
the whole van now.
The only pain is having to get down on the ground to secure the bolt
and jam nut, but hey, I'll feel much better without the carrier
flopping around behind me.
I've used the carrier for an 800 mile round trip and I'll give the
carrier 4.5 out 5 hitch pins.
As noted in an earlier post, there was a fair amount of movement with
the carrier installed in the receiver. Almost 2.5" up and down and
side to side. I was not comfortable with that.
Following a suggestion found on the webernet, I drilled and tapped the
receiver for a 5/16 bolt and jam nut. At first I tapped the receiver
rear of the pin (towards the rear of van) so that the bolt lifted the
bar and the weight was sitting actually sitting on the bolt. This
method prevented all movement - the carrier was rock solid in the
I test this method by towing my trailer for a few hundred miles and I
was impressed by the lack of movement and noise. I should have done
this years ago! However, when I tried to remove the bolt, I found that
it was slightly bent and hard to get out. Assuming it was bent from
the weight of the tongue, I drilled and tapped the receiver forward of
the pin so the bar would rest on the bottom of the receiver and then
tested the carrier. Regardless of how much I tightened the bolt, there
was still movement of the bar in the receiver.
The final solution: I upgraded the bolt to a Grade 8 and used the
original hole which was rear of the pin. Even with the bolt basically
supporting the fully loaded carrier, there was no deformation, even
after 800 miles.
I also purchased the Harbor Freight Cargo Carrier Cover:
They must have been thinking when the designed both of these items
because they made them just wide enough to hold those blue bins you
can buy at the home centers for under $10. I was able to fit 2 of them
in the carrier and then place some boxes on top, some more stuff in
between them and still comfortably zip the bag closed.
Eventhough the bag is lined with what appears to be a waterproof
material, I spray the bag with Camp-Dry silicon sealer for extra
waterproofing. It didn't rain while I was driving, but the carrier bag
was left out in the rain at the place I was staying and the inside
stayed completely dry.
The only con I will mention is that with bag loaded and strapped in, I
can't open or close the hatch of my mini-van. If I unstrap the bag
and, with a helper, tilt the bag and contents up about a foot, I can
use the hatch. Not a big deal, you just have to make sure you load
things in the right order - and not need anything big from the back of
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