On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 14:00:27 -0000 (UTC), HerHusband
My kid brother lives in a small town in that remote portion of North
Dakota known as Saskatchewan. He owns the first property outside town
on the main road, and the property next to him came up for sale about
2 years ago. It shares his driveway. The asking price, with a 2 year
old roof, wiring, and plumbing, including appliances less than 5 years
old and a 2 year old lawn tractor was $5000 Canadian.
He said he just KNEW what kind of neighbours he'd get for $5000, so he
bought it. The seller had not managed to sell his late seventies
Lincoln Town Car by the time he left town, so he signed it over as
part of the deal.
Perfectly liveable little house, with no plumbing or electrical
issues, and a good roof. You need to truck in your water, and pump out
the sewage (no town sewers, and no weeping beds allowed - and
gawdawful water - but only $5K
A few miles up the road, where you CAN put in a septic tank, and the
water is still terrible, the property would have been worth about 4X
as much. Get up into Yorkton it would be about $60,000 - $120,000. 30
km south in Mellvile, about $35000
Unfortunately, there is a corner shower on the back side of the wall in the
other bathroom. So no access from the back, even if I wanted to tear into
it (which I don't).
Her house is two hours away from me. We're busy moving her to an assisted
living home, so I don't have the time or money to invest in major repairs.
Just trying to fix anything small that we can before we try selling it.
You should be able to use a hack saw to cut off the wall end of a replacement spout to make it short enough to work with the current nipple. Then use a bead of caulk to fill whatever gap remains. This isn't rocket science, just basic handyman stuff.
It's not hard to do, but it's difficult to do well.
The spouts are made of a thin metal, covered with a thinner layer of chrome
plating. Making a straight cut on the odd shaped spout would hard enough,
and the plating would most likely chip where it was cut.
I think the adapter Uncle shared the link too will accomplish what I need.
The 1/2 by 1/2 adapter from Uncle sure looks like it should solve the probl
em for well under $10.00.
I would start talking to Realtors as soon as possible. They should be able
to tell you what they think are the "Must Haves" in the way of repairs to
sell the house. It sounds like you are talking $50,000 or more off the pri
ce compared to a "regular" listing, but there are probably some minimum thi
ngs that should be working to help sell it quickly at a reasonable price.
Check with 3 (or maybe more) Realtors and see if they give you similar stor
I'm hoping so. I don't really want to invest too much time and effort into
I put out a few feelers to realtors but haven't had the time to follow up
on it yet. We're not too concerned about the selling price, as Medicaid
basically requires you to go broke before they'll start paying anything. A
higher selling price would just mean another 6-12 months living off her own
money before she can apply for Medicaid.
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:13:42 AM UTC-4, HerHusband wrote:
It's not an actual rule, but a fairly common occurrence:
The more money she has for self-funding her care, the better a place she
may be able to move into. Once she's there, she won't get kicked out once
the Medicaid benefits kick in.
Underselling the house may mean lower quality care for mom.
Well, I finally got back over to mom's house but things didn't quite go
as planned... :)
I received the adapter fitting you gave me the link to:
I threaded it on the existing stub out, but it still stuck out about a
1/4" too far from the wall. No worries, I bought a trim ring too, so I
stuck that to the shower wall with some plumbers putty and starting
screwing on the tub spout (hand pressure only). It was all going so well
until I was about 1/8" from seating the spout. That's when the pipe
inside the wall broke loose! Dang.
So, I removed the tub spout and fitting. Couldn't get the stub to come
out through the hole in the shower surround, so I let it drop inside the
wall. I looked inside with a flashlight and could see the elbow that was
soldered to the pipe slipped off the end of the pipe. Bad solder joint.
I did some measuring to see what was on the back side of the wall, then
used a long screwdriver to make an exploratory hole into the adjacent
room. Naturally, it was right behind the toilet (not the shower as I
I removed the toilet tank, and cut a small 6"x8" access hole so I could
get inside the wall.
Whoever the "professional plumber" was who installed this did a terrible
job. Not only was the solder joint bad, but they did not anchor the drop
ear elbow. They had simply hammered one of the ears into the side of a
Fixing this will be tricky since the pipe runs right alongside a stud.
There's certainly no room to get in there with a torch next to the stud
and plastic tub surround, even with a heat shield.
I'm not crazy about sharkbite fittings, but it seems like the most
workable solution in this situation. Unfortunately, I will need to cut
the pipe back to get clean pipe. I'm not sure how I'm going to get in
there to cut the pipe since it's right next to the stud.
Assuming I can get the pipe fixed, I need to figure out how to secure the
new drop ear elbow from the back side.
Sheesh, this was suppose to be such a simple repair. I'm about ready to
say screw it and let the next homeowner deal with it, but it has become
something of a challenge now. I'm determined to fix it! :)
Yeah, the next homeowner will probably come in and gut everything,
ripping out my proud new work, but I'll have peace of mind. :)
On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:14:02 AM UTC-4, HerHusband wrote:
Sorry to hear that. It's the bad scenario we all agreed can easily
happen when you start trying to fix old plumbing that you have no
or limited access to. Given that this is a fixer upper in need of
a lot of repairs, I would not hesitate to use sharkbite if it makes
things easier. Good chance it's all going to be ripped out soon
All I wanted to do was replace the tub spout... :)
I've had a lot of experience with old plumbing at my in-laws house
(galvanized pipe, even worse). I've learned nothing is easy when it comes
to old plumbing.
Access is going to be the biggest problem.
I won't be able to get back to mom's house for a few days.
On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:47:28 AM UTC-4, HerHusband wrote:
I just went through a similar evaluation with my shower. It has 25 year
old Hans Grohe faucets. The shower volume had gone down gradually,
getting really noticeable the last year or so. I had cleaned the existing
shower head, no change. Recently I bought a new dual head shower
contraption, where you can use one or the other or both heads at the
same time. No change. I then realized that the water flow out of the
pipe was low. So, what to do? I considered taking the valves apart,
but these fancy Grohe handles do not use screws, they just press fit
on. I figured after all those years, they were not likely to come off
easily, if at all, and there is no way to even pull on them, ie you
can't get a puller type thing on them, etc. And the last thing I needed
was to have to put in new ones, because these still look and work fine,
other than the volume issue.
So, I decided to try blowing it out with the air compressor. I rigged
up a fitting, blew air through the shower pipe and out the tub and
sink fixtures. And voila, I'd say the volume easily doubled. And the
new shower heads now work fine, the flow can support both of them.
I got lucky.
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:10:21 -0000 (UTC), HerHusband
When you are finished patching the pipes together, close the new
access hole, open another one a few inches higher, and pour the space
between the studs full of quick drying concrete. That will handle
anchoring the drop ear elbow - - - -
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