Duplicate Census Forms

[RonB]

Just fill one out and mail it. Disregard the duplicates. That way they can send an army of census-takers to your doorstep to grill you on the ones that didn't get submitted. :^}

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[RonB]

Doesn't matter. The hype, regarding invasive questioning that circulated the internet was mostly horse-s**t. The form looks large when you pull it from the information but as Jack Webb used to say it is "Just the facts Ma'm." The reason it looks long is they have repetitive blanks for additional folks in a household.

I was loaded for bear when I saw the envelope. When I opened it it was like "Well, crap, is this it?" Took about two minutes to complete.

Of course Glen Beck will spend fifteen hours telling us about the clandestine reasons for the questions on the longer form that very few among us will receive. In fact he could spend ten hours complaining about the one that says "how many folks live here?"

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[dpb]

dpb wrote: ...

Dangit, meant _different_ bar codes.

The Census web site FAQ indicates that's how they do tell duplicates apart in the consistency response duplicate mailing sample so is at least a possible explanation altho I'm sure those aren't supposed to be mailed/received at same time but as a subsequent (on the hope you'll have forgotten how you answered before if you were deliberately misleading??? :) ).

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[Michael Dobony]

More ACORN fraud? When are these criminals going to be shut down for good??

[Jim Yanik]

Dean Hoffman wrote in news:ho53rr$f1v$ [e-mail]:

all that is Constitutionally authorized is a body count.

[Jim Yanik]

Frank wrote in news:ho54gm$ahm$ [e-mail]:

commit mail fraud? not a good idea.

the envelope has a barcode on it that the gov't uses to track it's progress thru the postal system,so that if it gets lost,another is sent out;

evidently,the USPS lost it,then after a new form was on it's way,found the first one and delivered it. Typical USPS.

(and some want the same gov't to run healthcare....)

[Jim Yanik]

aemeijers wrote in news:VfqdnfSe2dvYizvWnZ2dnUVZ [e-mail]:

Being able to "hand out money" is power. that's what it's about. more bureaucracy means less freedom.

OTOH,kinda hard to build Interstate highways when a few states say no to their part.

[Kurt Ullman]

Technically the only thing that is Constitutionally REQUIRED is a body count. There is no language forbidding anything else.

[aemeijers]

Jim Yanik wrote: (snip)

Exceptions like that are why I said 'most'. Although there have been some glorious fubars in the execution, not to mention lotsa pork-barreling in the routing and picking of contractors, Ike's Autobahn system has been one of the few federally-driven major projects that has worked pretty well. (Although without it, Walmart likely never would have made it out of Arkansas...)

This is way OT already, so I'll pass on commenting on the pork passed out to cities and quasi-governmental agencies for 'redevelopment'. (Well, one little comment- I've been in this town almost 30 years, and the old downtown, and the old rich parts of town that have been slums for sixty years, have been continuously executing federally-assisted 'redevelopment' plans since I got here. Get a clue, folks- it ain't working.)

[Oren]

I found the reason, I think. (sample)

One form is addressed for 1234 Maple St.

The second form is addressed for 1234 S Maple St.

There is no 'South Maple St."

I'll speak to the postal person as to how I send the wrong addressed form back or just shred it :-/

Here is a sample of the form.

pdf:

Good Luck!

[terry]

We agree: Each of us should build our own roads, we don't need police, the CIA/FBI, or the army, agencies such as the FCC, the Air safety people and Air Traffic Control, and the FDA are unnecessary. If planes crash or food is tainted or the sausages made of of horse manure, what the heck! It's our own business what we eat! It's our job to look after ourselves. For example; by owing guns we are all in the 'The militia'. And responsible for our own defence.Right? All this nonsense about border patrols/control ....... a lot of bunk! We don't need better government control of the financial system, banks, investment/finance/insurance companies etc. Leave that to other countries, because even if their economies are recovering better and more quickly, following the credit crisis that our financial system caused, it would be 'socialistic' and Un-American to do so. Europe and Asia can do what they like, we don't care.The fact that China had an 8% growth of GDP last year is meaningless and since Wal mart alone buys much of the goods we buy from China, from flowerpots to lawnmowers to packaged biscuits, that's free enterprise and the American way. We should be allowed to continue our high unemployment as long as we wish. The fact that we have some 40 million people without proper health care doesn't matter. Although other countries have done it differently for the last 50 years or so. and their citizens, on average, live longer that in the US. That drug costs are three to five times higher than elsewhere is not true????? Viva America.

[Dean Hoffman]

Except maybe the 10th Amendment.

[Higgs Boson]

Because they know about your multiple personalities

[aemeijers]

terry wrote: (snip)

Lord love a duck, that ain't what I said, and you know it. There are worthwhile federal programs, and long-haul roads used for interstate commerce and national defense, FDA, ATC, etc, fall in that category. I was complaining about how the local-level programs that depend on 'free' money from Washington, are largely a joke. If a local-level program is worthwhile, it should be financed locally, and Washington should never see that money in the first place.

[Jim Yanik]

Dean Hoffman wrote in news:ho6eh1$soj$ [e-mail]:

the government only has what powers the Constitution authorizes it to have. That's the concept of "limited government" that Obama and the "progressives"(communists) are so hot to destroy.

[Jim Yanik]

aemeijers wrote in news:Q7ydnbidNpd9UjvWnZ2dnUVZ [e-mail]:

Yet I still got sick from tainted peanut butter....

Incorrect. I can own guns whether I'm in a militia or not. The RKBA is not restricted to militia membership;there's NO language in the Second that says (or implies)that.

it's interesting how much that number varies... I suspect that illegal immigrants are included in that figure,also those that -chose- to not buy health insurance.

We DONT CARE how it's done in other countries. The US is NOT those other countries,we deliberately set out to be different from them.It's what makes us better. you want to be like them,MOVE THERE.

sure,they don't have to pay for the development costs that we invest;foreign countries don't develop nearly as many new drugs as the US,they don't fund the research that we fund. And you want to make us more like THEM?? they can't even maintain enough for their own defense.

Just wait; if the healthcare gets passed,there will be MANY new and large gov't bureaucracies established to monitor things;the IRS will have a huge expansion just to insure everybody buys the mandatory HC or gets taxed extra if they don't.(and less freedom for everybody) Healthcare is just the tip of the iceberg of the new United Socialist States of America,the USSA.

[Oren]

Well, you have that. and then there is the federal law.

I cannot claim protection under the 5th Amendment, affording me protection from self incrimination, when they send me a Census form.

[aemeijers]

Do a search in US Code on the definition of 'militia'. Unless they changed it in the last couple of years, it includes all able-bodied males of a specified age range.

[Pete C.]

I just shred all of them...

[Kurt Ullman]

Nah, the biggest difference is in HOW they are counted. The big figure is usually cited and it is those who were without health insurances at any time (for even a day) during the year. Then the divisions are usually quarterly depending on the point one is trying to make. The smallest figure(s) are generally the chronically uninsured which runs between 6 and 12 months.

Not really. We pay exactly the same percentage of our healthcare costs for drugs as Britain, Canada, and most of the rest of the west. Also, generic drugs are actually higher in Canada than the US. Largely because the other countries regulate the price of the name brand drugs, but not generics. The companies are fined rather heavily in addition to having to disburse the "excess profits".