i'm drywalling an older home. it's matched lumber all around including
interior walls, partitions etc. on the walls now tentest(sp) with 3-4
layers of wall paper. is it ok just to drywall over all of this or
should i rip to the studs?
No, it's not ok to drywall over it. All your electrical boxes will then be
1/2" back from the finished surface of the wall, and it will not be possible
to mount any of the outlets or switches securely.
I assume "matched lumber all around" means solid wood panelling? If so, why on
earth do you want to remove that, or cover it over?
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Electrical box extenders are made to handle this situation, but my main
concern would be what are you going to do at the windows and door trim areas
with the added wall thickness? Butt against the trim, or tear it off and
shim out the jambs?
which do you hate more: cleaning up a mess, or trying to get drywall to fit
in impossible situations.
if you care about the house, rip it out. if you want the job to look best,
rip it out. if you want it to take the least amount of time, rip it out.
if you are a glutton for punishment, drywall over what you got.
that was the intention - to get the electrical outlet exten's. my fear
in the circa 1930's home was the use of leaded paint, which the tentest
has on it. i did not want to disturb it when removing to the studs. the
matched lumber in all the walls was the material of choice. it is not a
finished product and is laid horizontal. In our area it was either
matched lumber or lathe for plaster. another reason not to strip back -
i don't have to worry about studs when securing the drywall. i'm not
doing any electrical work and the house is insulated.
Hear! Hear! And I'm speaking from the first-hand experience of NOT
having ripped it out, and I thought that leaving the existing up would
actually make things quicker/easier for me. Boy, was I ever wrong.....
1 room done and taped as a test - looks fine with 1/4 inch drywall. no
mess. no problems around outlets. and no broken 70 year old crown
mouldings or casing as i butted up against it. so i don't have to
attempt to match up broken peices (impossible) nor replace it all
(costly). thanks for the input - the easy way is the best way - in this
I've helped remodel a friends house twice putting the new drywall over
the old and it looks great. BTW we used 1/2" both times making the walls
an inch thicker.
We also drywalled over the ceiling. We used liquid nail along with
crouse thread drywall screws on the walls and ceiling. The liquid nail
might be over kill on the walls but HE has the money...LOL
Also they make plastic "j-mold" that will fit over unfinished drywall
edges, GREAT for door openings and can also be used on windows if you
don't want to extend the wood frame (if you have wood frames) if not it
solves the unfinished drywall edge problem.
As another poster mentioned they make spring loaded kits to extend the
electrical outlets. If you can't find them at Home Depot, etc. try a
glass shop that does glazing, they use them for mirrored walls.
I went right over the top of it with quarter inch. I actually had a couple
of drywall people tell me it would be cheaper and would likely look better
because they felt with settling in older homes I may get more waviness by
going down to the studs. I did this in three rooms. In two rooms I abutted
the current trim (it was new) and in a third I ripped out and replaced the
trim. All rooms look great but I'd recommend pulling the trim first.
In my home I just ripped it out to the studs. From there I decided to
insulate the walls, take out the old wiring and put in new (also added
a few outlets) Met some termite shells from years ago. Removed the
damage that they did....
Decided to put in new install (not remodel type) windows.
All in all, I am very happy about taking out the old crap. It was allot
of work, but in the end the home is more efficent (insulation) termite
damage that may have never been seen was taken care of (a stud here and
there was just about eaten away, not good)
It really depends on how you like to do things... Usually the right
way is not the quickest or cheapest way. But in many cases the results
will come out even better than expected. If this is a home that is a
"transitional" home that you want to get rid of in a few years, do
whatever is quick and cheap. If this is a place you plan on being for
awhile, do the right thing.
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