Dude... If you want to bolt it to the guard rail you are going to
to get permission to do that and it will have to be one of the
ones that has DOT approval, the filing fee for the request will be
Figure out a way to turn the cars around up near your house...
That's why it has to be cheap (about $25) because it's easy enough to
stop and there's almost never crossing traffic.
Still, what's so very wrong with looking for a cheap long bendable mirror
material that can be bolted to the guardrail on the curve across from the
driveway entrance to the road?
I think that's somewhat subjective.
1. Stopping is free, and requires virtually no effort.
2. Stopping is smart, and being that smart requires virtually no
3. I don't think citizens are permitted by any state to attach
anything to a guardrail or any other public property/ROW.
4. Something like that has the possibility of adverse unintended
consequences, like blinding/confusing approaching motorists at night.
5. In the event of a crash, day or night, your mirror might be cited
and/or accepted as a contributing factor, whether or not it in fact
Many people, including "officials", are convinced crashes can be
caused by red light cameras, fog, icy roads, ad infinitum, despite the
fact that most motorists manage to not crash in the identical
circumstances, at the same place and time.
Other than that, and your problem being imaginary, nothing.
It isnt cowardly to stop. Somebody has to.
But you might see if the county or city can help you by putting a Slow
sign or speed bumps on the road that is most likely to hide arriving
The mirror is not a bad idea unless local governmental rules preclude
it. We had one at the turnoff to our house in Norway, where the roads
were narrow, sided by vertical granite cuts, and had a lot of sharp turns
Of all the suggestions, the convex mirror seems best:
a) Stopping & looking works fine - but a mirror would be better
b) Creating a turnabout is infeasible (and maybe wouldn't work anyway)
The only bad thing is that the mirrors are expensive (at about $100 when
mounting is considered).
Here are some pictures of the situation taken this afternoon in the fog:
I think the $100 mirror is the only viable option. Sigh. I was hoping to
find a cheaper substance that mounted with just a bolt into a tree or
Your problem there is the incline of the driveway... Remove some
of the brush to make looking over in that direction easier...
No mirror will make entering the roadway from that driveway a
safe foolproof operation... Just accept the fact that the only
safe way to drive out of that driveway is to stop and look before
Maybe even putting up a sign on your property indicating that
to visitors would be a good thing...
I know. But it was a foot wide (which is mighty small):
"$27 for a 12" with no backing"
Still, it's in the budget range so I appreciate the find.
In the end, I think I'll go with this, however small. If I'm lucky, I'll
nail it to a tree. Folks out here are mighty friendly - it's the
transients that steal stuff - so I shouldn't have a problem nailing the
mirror on a tree. That keeps the costs down.
I've already seen the posts about not putting a post in the guardrail
'control zone' and the posts about modifying the guardrail - so both
those ideas are off the table now due to those complications.
The only option left, given the constraints, are the 12 inch convex
mirror nailed to a tree. If/when I do this, I'll post a picture of the
But, the other posts
Being a computer nerd I would go with the camera/tablet solution.
Cheap wireless ip cam that you can access with any sort of portable
through your home lan.
Place the cam appropriately, maybe weather enclosure. Make it hard to
see from road so you lessen the theft problem.
I would cut down the brush (obstructions) that limit your
view until you are at the very crest of your driveway at the road...
In the long run, that solution is free (other than taking up your
time), can not be stolen or damaged and if it doesn't work you
can always revisit the mirror issue later on...
People always make the mistake of installing a convex mirror. This is nearl
y useless, since it exaggerates distance and makes everything more than a f
ew feet away a tiny speck.
Your main concern is traffic in the nearest lane, which means coming from t
he left. Thus, your best bet is to put a FLAT mirror that lets you see down
the road to your left. If there's nothing coming from the left, you can no
se out into the road and take a look to your right.
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