While I am contemplating how to fix the drain problem with our washer, I
have connected the washer to a flex tube and discharge the laundry water out
the garage. The water runs across the back yard's concrete paver and end up
ponding a little in the back alley.
Apparently one of our neighbors complained to the city and they sent a code
inspector out and told us we had to stop doing it. I said this is temporary
and if I were to wash my car there it will have the same effect. She
couldn't quote me any specific violation but told me I have to stop
Any there usually regulations against soapy water discharge from properties?
I asked her if I have a big tub in my back yard and wash the clothes by hand
and then pour the tub's water out later will it be legal then, she said that
"might" be acceptable. I don't understand...
You are fucking kidding me, right? I gotta say if my neighbor were
draining ANYTHING into an open area, yea, I'd complain too. How the
hell are your neighbors supposed to know what you are draining?
Jesus dude, have some respect for the people around you. Drain your
fucking laundy into your bathtub.
If the wastewater comes from a toilet, it's SEWAGE ( black-water )
if it comes from a shower, sink, washer, etc.... it's GRAY WATER
In many places gray water is perfectly legal for lawns, gardens, etc.
Except during a prolonged drought when the watering of gardens is
banned. There is no way they can tell if its potable water or gray
water and they are not about to send out a inspector to check.
Therefore if your lawn looks refreshingly green because you had been
using gray water, watering is watering and you get fined for violating
If they cannot cite a code, you can probably fight and win. OTOH, the city
has more money and more lawyers than you do. I'm sure they can find some
nuisance code violation if you push it. Meantime, do the laundry after
dark, the squeegee the pond to disburse it.
My neighbor knows because when I did it the first time I made sure I let
them know what that was and assured them it will only last a couple of weeks
until I can get it fixed. The know it is water and soap.
and I am not Jesus, nor am I dude.
So, you think it would be ok to run your tub water, kitchen sink water,
dishwater water, lav water, and all other water from your home except toilet
water outside onto the lawn?
For your question regarding sewage on a car. I guess if you shit in it and
then rinse the shit onto the sidewalk, there would be issues.
Tony is a good guy, don't be rude to him.
Many Arizonians are presently washing their cars with prehistoric
water, pumped out of the prehistoric bowels of the earth.. That's a
factoid i learned at the Desert Museum in Tucson. Americans will
eventually need to take water from Canadian rivers, and they will do
so, with or without consent.
That's why there is a Canadian federal law that bans the sale of bulk
water from Canada in spite of all the years lobbying from business
concerns on both sides of the border.
In some published fact source it is said that Canada has the largest
amount of fresh water resources on this planet. Shouldn't we share it
with our thirsty southern neighbor and make easy money too? Uhuh.
The long range view is that once the export of bulk water - rivers,
glaciers, icebergs - is allowed the demand from the US will be
insatiable. If bulk water becomes a tradable commodity it will be
very difficult to then restrict its trade without coming up against
free trade principles and probably against other ingenuous
interpretation of trade laws. Perhaps even leading to war and regime
change as Porky realizes.
The higher price water starved American cities , industries and farms
will be willing to pay will result in a even higher price of water to
Canadian consumers. If enough water is diverted from Canada whole
weather systems and ecosystems will be affected. America is indeed
super powerful in more ways than one.
I believe there is already one clear example from the Columbia River
that flows into the western US. The US has drawn so much water from
this river that it is affecting its source in the Canadian Rockies and
most of the salmon spawning streams have been degraded. There isn't
enough water in most years for the salmon to reach their traditional
spawning streams. But due to a bilateral agreement on the management
of the river Canada is not allowed to do anything witout US assent, to
hold back water to improve salmon spawning conditions although this
will improve immensely the health of the river.
Canada does not need to divert any of that water for its own use and
the amount involved is minimal and seasonal. To the Americans this
"control" is the first crack by Canadians to control their source of
water. The bilateral agreement turned out to be a bad deal for Canada
and it was suckered because no one thought of those issues at that
time. Fortunately in this instance only the salmon will suffer,
mainly the American salmon fisheries at that. But it is a very
poignant example to Canada about the management of water resources
that the US covets. A blanket ban prevents any insidious backdoor
The generally accepted definition of sewage is " waste matter carried
away in sewers or drains ".
Water runoff from a car wash isn't sewage. Unless it is a commercial
car wash and the drain is plumbed to a sewer or drain.
In my city washing car at home is illegal, what you are doing is illegal
here. = pollution. Most soap is non-biodegradable.
Your local government may be different.
You mean your house has grey water drain problem?
This would be a definite health and safety violation in many
jurisdictions. Laundry discharge can be quite hazardous if you happen to
have a household resident carrying infectious diseases. Maybe you don't
wash cloth diapers or soiled bedding, but the regulations are designed to
protect the public from people who do.
email@example.com is Joshua Putnam
Calgary Alberta. My brother worked for city water department. It's bylaw
often not reinforced but one can get ticket. We're talking about storm
sewer water recycling, oil industry water reccycling,
water conserving fixtures in all new houses, program for people to swap
out old toilets, water meter, etc.
We're trying to be ready years from now. Water is getting scarce even
here. Every drop counts. Older brush car wash place is being phased out.
No touch brushless water conserving ultrasonic car wash is taking over.
U.S. is No. 1 energy user/polluter in the world. U.S. better take a lead
in this field as well.
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