Concrete tents - easy to build they say.

Hope this isn't ot - these could be used for a garage, shop, chicken house, etc. Bob-tx

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But, all that glitters is not plastic - read below

LONDON (AlertNet) - Two British engineers have scooped a global innovation award for an inflatable concrete tent, designed for rapid deployment in disaster zones, but aid workers differ on its practical viability. The inventors, Peter Brewin and William Crawford, say they saw a need for the structure given the inadequate protection provided by tents in the aftermath of disasters such as the Pakistan earthquake. 'With shelter and medical facilities it is possible to rebuild shattered communities from day one of a crisis,' they said in a statement. The tent, made from fabric impregnated with concrete, can be put up by an untrained person in 40 minutes. It takes 12 hours for the concrete to set, but once done, the tent can last for up to 10 years. The two designers, both 26, developed so-called Concrete Canvas during an industrial engineering course at the Royal College of Art in London. Their efforts were rewarded on January 26 at a ceremony in New York with the presentation of the top prize at the Saatchi & Saatchi Award for World Changing Ideas. Media reports say the invention has attracted interest from the United Nations and several international humanitarian agencies. JUST ADD WATER 'If this was available now, we would buy 10 today,' Monica Castellarnau, a programme director at M'decins Sans Fronti'res, was quoted as saying by Wired News. Its combination of ease of assembly with durability has also drawn praise. The logic of Concrete Canvas is simple. Each unit ' weighing 227 kg (500 lb), making it light enough to transport by plane or truck - comprises an inflatable plastic inner bubble, wrapped in the treated fabric and packed in a plastic sack. To deploy the tent, the sack is first filled with 145 litres (32 gallons) of water, which is absorbed by the cloth. The sack is then cut open, the tent is unfolded and the plastic bubble is inflated. The canvas then moulds around the bubble and sets to form the solid infrastructure of the tent. The finished shelter covers some 16 sq meters (172 sq feet) of floor space and the cost per unit is estimated at '1,100 ($2,100). But some aid officials are not convinced. 'At first sight it looks marvellous,' said Rishi Ramrakha, a logistics officer at the British Red Cross Society. 'But the real practicalities look a bit difficult.' According to Ramrakha, there are several central problems. First, the unit is too heavy to be carried easily into areas where there might not be access for aircraft or trucks. The second is the amount of water needed to erect each tent. 'Where are you going to get 145 litres in a disaster zone?' he asked. Experts also point out that displaced populations are accommodated in temporary shelter because they will eventually be encouraged either to go back to where they came from, or to make homes and a new life in a better place. The construction of permanent structures, particularly in conflict zones, could hamper that process, they say.

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Bob-tx
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It's heartwarming that you're worried about OT posting something that actually has to do with homes in AHR.

That was my first question. My second is "how do they do the doors and windows? My third is "I've seen this sort of thing before" in Puerto Rico, I believe, or at least the same sort of building techniques. I recall someone describing the difficulties involved with all concrete homes and they were intense.

Used in places like Pakistan I'd imagine they'd become permanent slums. Way back when (when we were still friends with Quaddaffi Duck) the company I worked for used to ship flight simulators and spare parts in those big Sealand containers. They would never come back because Libyans would take them and turn them into instant houses. And we're worried about them?

-- Bobby G.

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Robert Green

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Not to mention that a concrete tent is a little more difficult to take down and move than a canvas one.

But for a quick and semi-permanent outbuilding, I think it might be interesting to play with. Didn't Bucky Fuller make some of his domes with concrete covered fabrics?

Jim

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Jim Elbrecht

I remember years ago the Marine Corps experimenting with structures whose main characteristic was inflation.

The structure - as I recall a 12x12' dome - came in two boxes. The first contained a balloon in the desired shape and an air compressor. The second largish box contained some spray-on foam.

After the "tent" was inflated, the air compressor was hooked up to the foam machine and about a foot of expanding foam (think Great Stuff) was slathered over the plastic bubble. The foam set up rather quickly and doors could be cut with a saw.

Think igloo.

The Marines discarded the idea.

Reply to
HeyBub

might be useful for nuke power plat accidents, like the current japanese one

Reply to
bob haller

I'm gonna build a concrete car.

Reply to
Dbdblocker

How many disasters happen in deserts?

Doesn't have to be clean, potable (drinkable) water.

You don't think they already live in permanent slums there?

Reply to
Home Guy

I've seen concrete boats. Why not? Airplane anyone? ;-)

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krw

The article says "To deploy the tent, the sack is first filled with

145 litres (32 gallons) of water, which is absorbed by the cloth. The sack is then cut open, the tent is unfolded and the plastic bubble is inflated"

The video says the tent is inflated first then saturated with water.

The video method seems to make more sense since I can't see how a folded up tent is going to absorb water evenly.

What happens if it rains for few days as the concrete is setting?

Reply to
DerbyDad03

Mythbusters built and flew a balloon made of lead so why not.

Harry K

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Harry K

Probably nothing. Concrete can be poured and will cure under water. I did that with a very small irrigatin dam. Had to put the concrete down a big pipe or it would mix with too much water on the way down.

Harry K

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Harry K

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How does it mix with too much water on the way down but not mix with too much water once it's actually down?

As the dumb jock once said about a Thermos keeping hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold:

"How does it know?"

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DerbyDad03

You're comparing apples to bridges.

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DerbyDad03

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Once in place thd watet does not mix into it. On the wayi down the mix is fluid, agitated, etc.

Concrete is commonly placed underwater but usually by being pumped, not dumped as I was doing.

Harry K.

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Harry K

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And you're not?

Harry K

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Harry K

You gave the dumb jock too much credit, he actually said "How DO it know?" ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

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Huh? What comparison did I make?

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DerbyDad03

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Well, when I heard the version where "How do it know?" is used, the term "dumb jock" wasn't used to describe the speaker.

The term used was, shall we say, a bit more racially descriptive.

I chose to remove the racial overtones in both the description of the speaker and in the punchline.

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DerbyDad03

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Dang, the White dumb jocks hang out with the Black dumb jocks and they all wind up sounding alike. Stop being so Politically Correct, it's silly. One of my darker skinned cousins said something so profound and funny to me years ago that I'll never forget. "Heck man, dey be stupid White peoples too!" ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

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