Not sure about the 'new' Rigid line, but, I'd steer away from the Ryobi
if you're planning on using in on a regular basis. You'll always find a
project around the house where it could be needed.
I have a Delta 10" cmpd mtr saw.
Had it for about 3 years, it does a great job and get a lot of use.
It will crosscut a 4x4 or 2x6.
I'd have to flip a 2x8 over though.
I would think most 10" models would have similiar capacities.
I've had to make several miter cuts where the 12" would have been useful.
Go with the 12" if you can.
I went through a similiar decision process and finally went with the
Bosch 10inch slider. Tool Crib had it discounted deeply at the time.
Must say the saw is precise / smooth / relatively quiet/ and comes
with a very high quality blade.
I've cut everything on it from 3/4" balsa strip 1/16" thick to all the
5/4 pressure treated deck boards and 4x4 posts for my new 16 x 32 ft
deck. I can't say enough good things about it.
Get the hold down and the wings for it if you go that way.
I'm pretty sure the "new" Rigid line is made by Ryobi (and the one Ryobi
tool I ever bought, for light use, lasted 2 weeks. That's a pretty lean
definition of "light"). At least that's the general concensus from those at
I bought the Dewalt 10" 703. Great saw but I don't think it will cut a 4x4.
Just food for thought, if portability is not an issue.
Have you considered a radial arm saw?
I had one set in the middle of a 16 ' workbench.
Not portable by any means, but much more versatile
than a compound miter.
Keep in mind that a miter saw only crosscuts.
A radial arm will do all that the miter will do
plus rip cuts. I could throw a 4 x 8 sheet of
plywood on the bench and rip it in half.
It' not in the workbench now, I've got it
on a makeshift stand in the living room of
What the other folks said about the Ryobi. It'll be OK for light use over a
period of time but it won't last or stand up to heavy work.
The interior trim work you can hand cut (I lean towards mitering/coping rather
than straight mitering), but a CMS is a must for construction-type work (as
opposed to finish carpentry).
I've used the DeWalt 12" CMS (borrowed from a buddy) and currently own the
DeWalt 12" SCMS. Good tools and will handle any of the dimensions you mention
in your post, so my vote would be for the DeWalt 705, based on fence height,
table durability, and solid lockdowns on the angle settings.
Most articles I've read comparing CMS/SCMS consistently rate the DeWalts
highly, the only downchecks they get are weight (57 lbs for the SCMS), poor
dust collection (don't bother buying the dust collection bag - sold
separately), and some reviewers don't like the handle layout.
Me, I like the beast.
As opposed to the $30 circular saw I used when I did framing? :)
Granted, it was late 1970's so tools have improved in availability and
price. I don't think I can hang a picture without an air nailer now
days but when I was a kid we spent 8 hour days swinging a 22 oz
framing hammer over our heads with 16D commons.
No, I don't miss it.
When I built my shed (10'x12') I used both (yep, my CS is a $30 Skil-speshul
too). But for the repetitive length and angle cuts a stop block and locked
down angle settings were a godsend rather than measuring/marking/cutting each
Of course the half-lap joints for the framing on the 4"x6" headers I did with a
hand saw . . .
Didn't use a framing nailer on the shed either. I agree, swinging those 22oz
barstids gets old, especially when you're pushing 50 with an increasingly
shorter story stick.
Dewalt 705S 12" compound miter saw. Commonly available, nice
accessories available, not too pricey. Very good ergonomics.
We've had one a decade, I think, and it still cuts clean and square.
$300 at Home Depot or Amazon, less when on sale.
We've occasionally considered upgrading the 705S (my other tools
include a Unisaw, a PM54A 6" longbed jointer, and so on: we can spend
some serious money on tools if we want) but never seen the need.
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Mike, I honestly think you might be asking for more headache by
narrowing it down like this.
I also went that route some time back, buying at the lower end. It did
not pay off. The waste of materials, the increase in labor, the
annoyance factor, safety -- I wish I'd bought a Makita long ago. You
pay once and you're good to go 20 years.
From the very first cut, the superior tool makes enough difference to
make a difference.
Try a few saws, don't take anyone's word for it. Even at Home Depot,
they have days when they can set up tools for trial use. Cut a few
boards. (When I did that, I abandoned all thought of buying anything
less than the Makita L1013, the unique twin linear bearing was so
different in feel and comfort level, it was convincing.)
Don't forget that buying the tool is a down payment. You'd be
surprised how much expensive material you can wreck with a cheapo
tool. (And how quickly.) You need to set it up too. Sometimes that
means a new blade (maybe $50) or a whole station - think $90 to $200
for a miter saw stand that suits your way of working.
If you really don't need to own a tool - why not rent? If that pinches
the time element too much, buy a GOOD tool, keep it absolutely clean
and in good shape, use it for your big project - then sell it. If you
buy junk, it has almost no salvage value. Buy a big name brand and it
will sell for almost what you paid for it a year later.
Heck, in Ebay, it can sometimes sell over retail.
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