# Challange - Help calculating Acarage?

Thanks in advance. Anyone want to take a stab at how many square feet, aproximately, this description represents??? We all have our sicknesses. Do I read this right that the property is on both sides of a road?
BEGINNING at a point on the title line in the bed of "Road 1" (proposed 50 feet wide) said point being measured by the 08 following courses and distances along the said title line and its extension through Re bed of "Road 1" from its point of intersection with the title line in the bed of "Road 2". (Route No. 2) (proposed 50 feet wide) (1) south 63 degrees 53 minutes east 680 feet to a point on the tide line in the bed of "Road 1" (2) south 63 degrees 22 minutes east, 313.50 feet to a point (3) south 71 degrees 07 minutes east, 313.50 feet to a point (4) south 61 degrees 22 minutes east, 238.40 feet to a point (5) south 38 degrees 22 minutes east, 132 feet to a point (6) south 38 degrees 16 minutes east, 873.89 feet to a point (7) south 80 degrees 29 minutes east, 553 feet to a point and (8) north 68 degrees 01 minute east, 300 feet to the point of beginning; thence extending from said point of beginning north 30 degrees 32 minutes west, crossing the northwesterly side of "Road 1", 525 feet to a point; thence extending south 80 degrees 34 minutes east crossing a stream and partly along land about to be conveyed to "Person 1", 699.10 feet to a point; thence extending still partly along the land to be conveyed to "Person 1" south 70 degrees 06 minutes east 90 feet to a point in line of land to be conveyed to "Person 2" ; thence extending along the last mentioned land the 02 following courses and distances: (1) south 20 degrees 19 minutes west, 114 feet to a point and (2) south 08 degrees 16 minutes west, crossing the northeasterly side of "Road 1" 312.80 feet to a point on the title line in the bed of "Road 1" aforesaid; thence extending along the said title line through the bed of "Road 1" the 02 following courses and distances: (1) north 74 degrees 44 minutes west recrossing the aforesaid stream 430 feet to a point and (2) south 68 degrees 01 minute west, 25 feet to the first mentioned point and place of beginning.
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No wrote:

If you know someone who uses AutoCAD, they can draw that up pretty quickly, tell you if the boundaries close (they don't always) and figure the acreage to 4 decimal points in fairly short order.
R
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No wrote:

Get them to supply a plat...
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Thanks - This, and drive by is all I have. Sheriff sale, considering flipping it. Just trying to get a sense of size, hence value, to see if its something to persue. That will give bme better comps.

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Drive by? Get out and pace it off. Close enough for biding purposes.
I do agree that the road does run through it by the description. County property map should be easy enough to scale. It might even be on line.
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House is occupied by somone probably not too happy their house is being sold by the sheriff. I'm not going to be able to walk it off. Its sort of suburban/rural and lots of folks in these parts have guns (Hunters, etc).

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No wrote:

Just trying to follow along and adding up some numbers in same general direction, looks like it's roughly a 1/4-mi or so on a side--I'd guess wildly somewhere in the 40-50A neighborhood. Of course, if I drew it out, I might find I was completely wrong, too... :)
If you have a CAD program, start entering lengths and berings and see where it leads. Don't suppose there's a chance there's a plat on file at the tax assessor's office?

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Most of that is just finding the starting point. Find a protracter, a compass, and some big graph paper,
I did a quick sketch in paintbrush to show you the technique, and give you a rough idea of the size and shape, at www.goedjn.com/sketch/plat.gif.
Eyeball guess, between 5 and 6 acres.
The purple lines indicate which borders I *THINK* the proposed road goes through. (It sounds to me as if the road isn't in yet, so you might be able to influence it's exact placement, modulo where the stream is, which I didn't even bother to find.
--goedjn

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I just did a drive by. Road is in and paved. Looks like the property was part of a larger farm. This parcel contains the barn, a newer house and a detached garage. The house looks like a modular (Not mobile home). One story rancher. Drive is not paved. Next door is a multi million dollar custom house. lien on this property is \$175K. Sheriffs sale is on Friday. I have never done a sheriffs sale before. I may just go to watch and learn and let this one go. \$175 would be a STEAL for this house in this area, I'm sure others will be attending and know this as well. I can cover the 10% (of 175K) required at day of sale but do not have the balance due in 21 days. Could be a year + long project if a new custom home were to be built on the site. I could sell my current house, live in the modular and build new myself. At under \$200K I would seriously consider it. I would halve my mortgage but then could get a construction loan, be net even on a monthly basis and have a new house on a nice lot when I'm done. Nor really a traditional flipping approach though. The property (not house) is a lot nicer than my current property. Anyway, thanks for letting me think out loud.

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It would be an interesting investment if one side of the road could support a house, independent of the main property. Doing a 2 fer. If you know what I mean.

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Oh, and thanks for the drawing!

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Ummm, before getting all those dollar signs in your eyes, have you ever been involved with a Sheriff sale?
That means generally, what the county has a lien on the property for. That doesn't always mean, free and clear. Unless you're familiar with these kind of sales, I would suggest getting an attorney involved.
A couple of properties I bid on, were Sheriff sales. One was 38k and change, but then I would have had to buy out who owns the rest of the property or vice versa, go through the courts, and drag on for years, having my money spent to the county and waiting. Divorce cases are sometimes Sheriff sales. Someone may have a lien on the property, and you may just be buying their vested interest. There's a whole bunch of different things it could be, but chances of getting the entire deed for what you're looking at, are probably about none and zero.
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Never done Sheriff sale before - I am currently getting a list of all liens. At first blush, it looks like only lein is their Mortgage lender but more research is warranted. Thanks for your advice.

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So many years since I did this kind of thing. When we wrote such descriptions, we always appended the calculated acreage -- but that's extra work I guess.
Well, using protractor and ruler to plot, I got the figure to close which gave me some reassurance that I could read the description. It appears to be something approaching a rectangle with average east-west width of about 600 feet and average north-south height of 400 feet. That simple approach suggests an area of 5.5 acres. Using a more refined method of summing calculated subareas, I came up with 5.05 acres. These are not the best methods of plotting and calculating but I estimate the latter figure to be within 5 percent.
The references to "Road 1" seem a bit garbled but I get the impression that the road is, or will be, the south boundary of the tract with the north half of the road being part of the calculated area reducing the net usable about one fourth of an acre (half width of 25 feet).
I'm long retired, pretty rusty and making assumptions here, so verify these comments as well as you can before making a commitment.
SJF
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No wrote:

I expected someone else to suggest this. Drop by your local auditor or whoever is in charge of property taxes. They will show you the plat map for any property. You have to be able to point out its location on a map so they know where it is. It also shows who is the person paying the taxes. It should also have the approximate acreage, i.e., "2.3 acre more or less"
Harry K
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No,
Get yourself some graph paper, pick a convenient scale, and start drawing. Also draw out some 1 acre squares. If you can find a sensitive weight scale then cut out the land diagram and an acre square, weigh each and do the math. If you can't find a sensitive scale you can make a fairly sensitive balance. Put the land diagram in one pan and acre squares and partial squares until you have a good balance.
Dave M.
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David Martel wrote:

Probably get close enough simply using a reasonable scale (drawing, not weight) and counting the squares and estimating fractions.
I didn't sketch this out to see what shape it actually turns out to be but could probably estimate it reasonably well from fitting some simpler geometric figures into it as well...
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