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Some are born to learn and then some are born brain dead like our troll (xModem). It's sad when someone wants to have a debate, but later you find they're incompetent to understand the simple charts which they're debating.

At least their shallow surveys are there for the shallow minded people like xModem.

Why else would they purchase a CR magazine? LOL

No need to apologize to xModem, he's to incompetent to understand a simple survey example.

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Are you still upset that you couldn&#39;t read a simple survey?

Are you to incompetent to comment (on my questions) as to why the CR survey is a JOKE?

Boy, you need to grow up and try to learn something for a change. Your little mind must be fixated on little things.

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So why did you post about your equipment experience? Why don&#39;t you want validatation for a survey which you think is correct? Do you always believe in bullshit reports?

Facts, just facts that you can&#39;t argue with. You can&#39;t come up with anything to discredit MY facts. You give up because you know you lost and the best man won.

Do you want me to type out a survey real s..l..o..w, so you can learn how to read and understand them. LOL

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<kjpro

Questionnaire.

Again 12 big brands... is Thermopride and the others not major players in the heating industry? Then you&#39;re using a 2004 survey for rating current brands for 2007? Do you realize that is 3 years later? Do you know that manufacture&#39;s change their equipment at least once a year? That in itself makes the survey out to be a JOKE.

BULLSHIT, most equipment failures are because of installation issues.

They should include a disclaimer... something like this.

*** Our survey is based on statistics that are gathered from people that have very limited knowledge of HVAC systems. This can leave you with results that may be conflicting to actual data gathered by professionals. You should always consult a professional for further information pertaining to your HVAC equipment needs. ***
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<kjpro

I read it and understood it. Unless you&#39;re talking about your survey, which is no survey at all.

You really are a one trick pony. I&#39;ve already commented, ad nauseum.

More vapid nonsense.

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xModem

I told you. I don&#39;t give a shit. I&#39;m only interested in those 12.

I already mentioned when it was done.

Don&#39;t argue with me, idiot. I didn&#39;t write the survey.

We&#39;ve been over this. If a homeowner can&#39;t get his furnace working, it&#39;s a problem. He doesn&#39;t need knowledge to know he&#39;s freezing.

I&#39;m sure if you contact Consumers Union, and tell them who you are, they&#39;ll issue an abject apology, and print your findings. After all, they&#39;ve only been in the business since the 1930&#39;s, and don&#39;t have much experience. Bwahaha.

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xModem

I believe the opinions of 36,000 people over one egotistical blowhard.

I&#39;ve lost nothing, Fred.

You have no survey, fool.

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xModem

Here it is again... you know what I&#39;m talking about, you just chose to try and change the subject.

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Tell me again that you were talking about the CR survey. LOL You can understand a simple example.

Still no comment...

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<kjpro

But one of them (that are not listed) may be better... LOL I guess you have to limit your brain to 12 little brands.

And again, in what way does that validate the survey? Are you able to read my questions, or do you always ignore the things you can&#39;t answer?

installations

Idiot? Who&#39;s the one that can&#39;t understand a simple survey? LOL

And this tells him it&#39;s a failure due to equipment over an installation issue, HOW?

Your right, their &#39;lack of experience&#39; is proven by their bullshit report that you back up.

I guess it takes an idiot to back up bullshit. Eh Boy?

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manufacturer

So in a court of law, the Judge would rather take advice from 36,000 people who have limited knowledge of HVAC over a professional in the HVAC industry? You&#39;re so funny...

You&#39;ve lost this debate, Boy.

Try reading it this time...

D o y o u w a n t m e t o t y p e o u t a s u r v e y r e a l s l o w , s o y o u c a n l e a r n h o w t o r e a d a n d u n d e r s t a n d t h e m ?

Was that slow enough for you to understand the question?

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<kjpro

Do you practice being f****ng dense, or does it come natural? ONCE MORE. IF THE FURNACE DOESN&#39;T WORK, THE OWNER CALLS FOR SERVICE. THIS "SERVICE CALL" IS THE BASIS OF THE SURVEY, NOT THE REASON FOR THE CALL.

Funny. You keep saying that, but you keep rambling on.

You HAVE no survey, asshat. Your "figures" were pulled out of your ass, along with your logic.

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xModem

And again, for the 10th time, you&#39;ve posted your own faux survey. Since it isn&#39;t a legitimate survey, it doesn&#39;t warrant consideration.

And once again, since you&#39;re insisting that bad installation is the main reason for the lower rated units, that simply shows that your chances of getting a shittier installation on the lower-ranked units, is much higher than on the top-ranked ones.

And also once again, when the homeowner turns on his furnace, and it doesn&#39;t work, that&#39;s a problem. Doesn&#39;t matter WHY there&#39;s a problem, only that there IS a problem.

Because I don&#39;t think it is a joke. Your survey is a joke, because it is no survey. But you already knew that.

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xModem

Of course. No argument from me on that. But quality doesn&#39;t matter, remember? It&#39;s all in the installation. LOL.

They were the subject of the survey. The survey is what&#39;s under discussion.

If you were paying attention, you&#39;d see that when I posted the ratings, I specifically mentioned it was a 2004 survey.

I&#39;ve answered you ad nauseam. That you&#39;re too dense to understand is of no consequence to me.

Goddamn... For the umpteenth time, HE DOESN&#39;T NEED TO KNOW. All that he&#39;s concerned with is that his furnace isn&#39;t working. He&#39;s had to call a repairman.

Have you called CR yet?

You&#39;re a laff riot, Fred.

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xModem

But, it wasn&#39;t till you made your inaccurate statement that you didn&#39;t want to discuss it further.

Do you want help understanding Survey&#39;s 101? LMAO

Nope, it happens with *all* brands.

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Again, they&#39;re ranking the brands. It does matter if it&#39;s an installation issue, because that&#39;s not the equipments fault that it broke down, you freaking idiot!

It&#39;s a simple example of a survey that you couldn&#39;t understand.

How&#39;s that &#39;Understanding Survey&#39;s 101&#39; coming along? LOL

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It is in the installation, but you&#39;re so hung up on the survey that you should want to know about the &#39;other&#39; brands that could be better?

I see you missed the point... AGAIN.

You talking about the BULLSHIT survey again? The one you think is accurate?

It&#39;s funny how you couldn&#39;t even understand a simple survey example. LOL

Point???

It&#39;s three years old you freaking idiot.

You are aware that equipment changes many times in that time frame?

Just more bullshit, no facts to back up your bullshit. Coarse there never is facts to back bullshit.

You lost, admit it and go on you freaking loser!

Then how is the survey accurate? If it doesn&#39;t look at all the facts, it&#39;s a bullshit survey.

Don&#39;t you get that yet?

Why would I, have you?

Whatever, Boy!

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<kjpro

What inaccurate statement?

This from someone whose trying to make a survey say something it doesn&#39;t.

So then quality of equipment MUST count for something? Of course it does. You&#39;ve got 1 shoe nailed to the floor, Fred.

Of course not, arsehole. You keep saying the homeowner has to have experience in furnaces before he can report he had a problem with it.

Much better than yours, as you so ably demonstrated yet again.

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xModem

I tried that before with you. You kept refusing to answer, claiming that the ONLY thing I should worry about is competent installation.

Try an pay attention.

I understand completely, just as any 6th grader would as well. Perhaps you should go find a 6th grader.

I said that. Right up front.

Sure. It&#39;s an aggregate rating. Go look that up. Of course ALL brands change. In all the ones in the survey, the Goodman brands fared the worst.

Coarse? Ok Fine.

3rd time you&#39;ve claimed this, but you&#39;re still yapping. You may force me to change your name from Fred Astaire to Monty Python&#39;s Black Knight.

Of course you know surveys better than an outfit doing them for 70 years.

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xModem

Geez... it&#39;s even in the same post and you can&#39;t find it... not to mention &#39;you&#39; posted the inaccurate information.

Do you remember saying this? "It doesn&#39;t change the fact that group 2 and group 3 had more problems."

If not, look above, boy!

So how&#39;s the training coming? It&#39; looks like you&#39;re studying real hard... as you can&#39;t even remember what you just posted. LOL

Boy, can you not read and comprehend anything?

You must be the dumbest idiot on Usenet.

You&#39;re still missing the facts. I said that the homeowner &#39;doesn&#39;t&#39; know

*why* their equipment failed. If it&#39;s an installation issue, that isn&#39;t the equipments fault.

What&#39;s so hard for you to understand?

I can and do comprehend surveys, you on the other hand want to ignore them and then later forget what you posted about them.

I see you are still flunking &#39;How to Read Survey&#39;s 101&#39;.... LOL

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<kjpro

statistics,

I didn&#39;t refuse to answer anything, unlike you who doesn&#39;t know how to read survey&#39;s. Then later even forget what you posted about them. LOL

My attention is on how you think a bullshit survey is providing you with accurate results. LOL

There you go, obsessing about little children again. You should really find someone to help you with your problem.

And that makes it accurate in what way? LOL

More bullshit by the incompetent Boy.

What&#39;s that Boy?

Sorry you don&#39;t like facts... just like a little cry baby.

I know HVAC and that allows me to understand why their survey is based on inaccurate facts. Just like all the rest of the bullshit you&#39;ve posted.

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<kjpro

Say it with me... "Installation issues don&#39;t automatically become the equipments fault".

Say it over and over, till you understand what it means. I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll be saying it for a very long time.

Then STFU and quit posting bullshit about an inaccurate survey.

Survey was an example, is that to hard for you to understand? Must be, as you couldn&#39;t even post accurate facts about it... LOL

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