Attempting Android setup perfection - I ask your suggestions for improvement

[nospam]

once again, you snipped to alter context.

here's the complete quote:

and you prove my point:

[Aardvarks]

While there are things that exist only in payware, name a function that you can do only with payware that I can't do with freeware.

I'm one of the most reasonable men alive - if you can name a functionality that you have with payware that I care about having with freeware - I'll already have the freeware to do it.

However, if I want to do it - and if I can't do it with freeware, then I'll agree with you - but you just always say "bullshit" without backing up any of your claims.

You never back up your claims.

[Aardvarks]

comp.mobile.android was crossposted in the OP.

[Aardvarks]

It's not anywhere near that simple most of the time.

Just try, for example, to find the best free vpn out there.

You will be inundated with crap. Garbage. And junk. Most of which costs money.

Yet, if you knew already the best free vpn, you'd be using it just like I am right now using it. For free. Fast. Quick. Easy.

But, since it's for free (and since it's not well known - which is great because it's not blocked due to spammers using it!), it doesn't make the reviews.

The result is that if you don't know what I know about free Android VPN, you're never gonna find it using a Google search.

The only way to find it is either do what I did (which was try every single one), or ask someone who has already done that.

[Aardvarks]

I won't quibble about the difference between a swipe and a tap, as I was counting that as two taps, whereas you count it as a swipe and a tap.

Same thing. It's two motions.

But the main point is that you seem to be organized such that *you* can find your apps.

A LOT of people aren't that organized. Their screens are such a mess that they're even *afraid* to post them, they're that messy.

The question is as pointless ask asking which is your favorite DMM. Sure, everyone has a favorite DMM but you can still learn from the choices that people make.

[Aardvarks]

My philosophy isn't your philosophy - so you'll be different. However, I am an old guy.

Who started in the beginning. When things were simpler.

I've seen a LOT of people who can't find their stuff. This happens on Linux, Windows, Mac, and on mobile devices.

That's why they have to resort to crutches like searching for apps, just to find their apps.

To me, that's ridiculous.

For me, nothing used often is ever more than two taps away. a. If it's frequently used, it's on the one desktop. b. Otherwise, it's in the appropriate functional folder. c. If it's not frequently used, its' in the app drawer.

I never allow more than one desktop. (On iOS 8+, you're stuck with a minimum of two desktop screens, which is idiotic but almost everything on iOS is idiotic because iOS is aimed mostly at idiots IMHO).

Nothing (except Google becuase it's a special case) is stored by brand name. Note that on most computers, the installers *love* to install by brand name. It's what Marketing People do. I don't.

But, to each his own. To me, a perfect system is one where I can find any app instantly.

[trader_4]

Yes it is, that's what I do.

I just googled for best VPN and immediately got hits to magazine articles where they review them, list the features, rank them. One article rates

15 of the top ones, the other 5. That seems far more productive than doing it your way, which doesn't even mention VPNs:

"I ask for improvement suggestions in the following three areas:

- Either improvement in organization

- Or improvement in missing apps

- Or further improvement in eliminating Google altogether "

For the record, I don't use a VPN, have no need for one. I suspect that's the case with most of the others here.

If you already know so much, then why do you need the advice?

Sigh, there is no hope.

[nospam]

bullshit

[Aardvarks]

I know it's what many people do. I do it too. Reviews are better than nothing - I agree. I've even written Android reviews on the best offline map programs, for example (posted to Android Central, for example).

However, the main problem "I" have with reviews: a. If they're written by some Indian guy - they're really a trick to drum up business for them so ignore all those on sight (they're copied almost verbatim off the web off some other Indian guy, all of whom are probably the same guy).

b. If they have advertisements all over the place, then you may want so suspect their judgement.

c. If they don't assess what *you* assess - then ditch them.

d. If they don't cover *any* freeware, then they're not being reasonable.

Given those caveats, some reviews are good.

For example, I use "App Backup & Restore" by Mobi.tools, which doesn't seem to exist anymore. So if I accidentally wipe out my stored APK for app backup and restore, I will be looking for the best free one out there, and I'll start with reviews.

However, I'll also ask here!

Does that article mention vpngate? Probably not.

Does that article mention that there are only two reasonably secure protocols? Probably not.

Does it mention that you *never* need any paid software client ever? (You don't need paid software even for the paid VPN services!) Probably not.

For example, many articles mention VPN that is native to the MAC but the native MAC VPN client is substandard (it doesn't support SSH). So all the standard MAC solutions are bad from the start (unless they add separate software for SSH, which is free, but which people pay for because they are MAC users so they're so used to paying for free stuff that they can't comprehend that they're paying for something that is already free.)

Very few VPN articles mention the truth, simply because they're all trying to sell you something that you can get for free.

NOTE: Corporate VPN is a different story - simply because needs are vastly different - so I'm talking personal vpn servers for people like us.

I never do anything on the net without VPN. VPN has it's pros and cons.

The pros include increased anonymity. The cons include substantially reduced speed.

Ah. That's a great question. I'm pretty smart. But so are many other people. While most people are dumber than I am, there are still millions upon millions of people who are much (much) smarter than I am.

Those are the people whom I ask advice from.

I'm very smart - and very experienced. But others are both smarter and more experienced than I am.

Those are the people I ask advice from. In the end, everyone is an expert in something.

I just happen to be an expert in freeware for personal computing. Try me. I'm also very helpful.

[Aardvarks]

You never even back up your claims of bullshit.

You exhibit the three traits of iOS users:

a. You bought on style alone (facts confuse you). b. You expect mommy Apple to protect you (fear drives you). c. You want mommy Apple to provide one-button-mouse simple solutions.

A. It used to frustrate me that you made no technical sense.

But once I realized that you bought on mere style, then I understood why actual price:performance means absolutely nothing to you.

B. It used to frustrate me that you parrot Apple Marketing nonsense.

But once I realized that the fear of the unknown is what drives you, then it made sense that the Apple mommy makes you *feel* safe (and "feeling" is the only thing that matters when it comes to safety). Fact doesn't play a role, as you amply exemplify.

C. It used to frustrate me that you seemingly innocently say you can do what we do all the time, yet, you just can't, so you lie constantly.

But once I realized you're so used to doing things the one-button-mouse way, and that you stay completely within the Apple ecosphere, and for anything else, you "just give up" - I then realized that all your "bullshit" comments apply to the non-real world that you live in.

a. You use *only* apple products b. You only do what apple tells you to do. c. You only do it the way apple tells you to do it.

So, all your "bullshit" comments apply to that contrived apple-only world. They do not apply to Linux, Windows, and Android interfacing with that world.

Now that I understand that you're always in the fake Apple-only world, and that you "just give up" whenever you have to do something functional, I better understand why you say "bullshit" without ever backing it up.

That's because you can't.

[trader_4]

IDK, because I don't give a rat's ass about VPN so I didn't read those articles that pop right up on google. But I do know that isn't what your questions were and no one here has mentioned VPN so far, except you. So, what have you learned about VPN apps here? What did you expect to learn about VPN apps in AHR?

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[nickolsen.rave]

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