I need a (cosmetic) cover for a wall/ceiling mounted "air sampling station".
In a sense, this is similar to what a smoke detector does (i.e., a smoke
detector "samples the air" for signs of smoke) so I started looking at
those for ideas.
But, I don't want anything that resembles a smoke detector too much
lest it be thought of *as* a smoke detector (leading to a false
sense of security). So, I've been looking for more visually
distinct "enclosures"/covers. For example:
The first looks like it would be the best choice as it *least*
resembles a smoke detector (at least in the US!)
Any other suggestions as to similar devices that I might want to consider?
On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 7:51:24 AM UTC-5, Retired wrote:
I think the concern about it resembling a smoke detector
is largely irrelevant. If it does, so what? In buildings
you see a variety of gizmos on the ceiling. Make sure you
have the required smoke detectors and what the air sampler
looks like doesn't matter.
I think that would tend to be large -- even for a "small" speaker.
The advantage/appeal of a smoke detector "case"/cover is that they
seem to be designed to be as unobtrusive as possible -- folks
don't really want to *notice* the smoke detectors in their homes, etc.
Along that same line of reasoning, I've seen some *indoor* PIr detectors
for alarm systems that "try to be unobtrusive" (same rationale: folks
don't want to *see* the stuff that comprises their alarm system) that
might be usable in wall-mount scenarios.
On 11/8/2015 5:18 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I'd like not to have to go into business making "covers".
So, would prefer to find something that can easily be repurposed
(and, if part of someone else's product, just approach them
to buy that component from them directly)
Check with Maico (or a similar manufacturer) if, after checking their
product for useable parts, you find it could be useable. Often you can
buy the shole thing for way less than the cost of the parts and just
drill out a few rivets or spotwelds, or cut off a part with a band-saw
and have what you need.
On 11/9/2015 6:23 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
As I said, I'd not like to have to go into business making covers.
Making two or three (or even ten) "by hand" as a "one time deal"
is not a problem. What *is* a problem is having to make hundreds
at a time -- and having to do so for "the foreseeable future".
It's much easier to find someone who is already using a "component"
(cover) that is suited to my needs and then approach them to just
"add X units" to their next purchase (as most folks don't do their
own injection molding but, rather, contract that out to a "supplier").
The downside (for this "someone") is that they have to deal with my
added needs, billing me, separating "my" part of the shipment from
*theirs*, etc. So, they should expect to make a bit of money on
The upside for them is they look like a bigger customer to *their*
supplier and don't have any real "obligations" to me (as their
customer) beyond just passing along the items.
The upside to me is I can get the benefits of hard tooling without
having to incur that cost. And, avoid even soft-tooling costs as
The downside to me is I'm captive to a particular "supplier" -- who
may opt to redesign that product (or, this *part* of that product)
and leave me stuck looking for an alternative supplier.
OTOH, I can always take a sample piece of the cover (with or without
their consent) and create tooling from it. It's not like they'll
have any (legal) protections against that (assuming I don't incorporate
any patented features or any corporate logos).
[But, then I'm back with the tooling costs to address]
The third URL, above, is exactly that -- though masquerading as a smoke
But, I think most cameras tend to be larger (at least all of mine are).
And, like my original desire NOT to have this be mistaken for a smoke
detector, I think being mistaken for a *camera* might be even more
unsettling. What would you do if you walked into someone's bathroom
and saw something that *looked* like a camera affixed to the ceiling
The bathroom thing completely slipped by me. You've
already thought about exhaust fan covers. Something from an automotive
ventilation system maybe? My Ford company pickup has vents about 4" in
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Yeah, you have to think real hard about *all* aspects of a problem
instead of just taking the easy/obvious route to a solution! :-/
[Many years ago, I designed a medical instrument whose full, lengthy name
abbreviated to "PID". Apparently, bad choice: "Pelvic Inflammatory Disease".
So, we had to change the name so it didn't conjure up the wrong impressions
in the market we were addressing!]
The smoke detector is the ideal "model" for what I'm after. In a sense,
it "samples air". It is intended to be unobtrusive. Can be encountered
on a wall or a ceiling. Typically mates to a standard Jbox.
I just need something that's very similar -- without being "the same"
(hence the "russian" unit I mentioned... unlikely any US homes or
businesses will ever encounter one of *those*!)
On 11/8/2015 11:27 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Hmmm... this would "look different" so fits that bill. But, while
it *seems* very low profile, there's actually a lot of cruft hidden up
behind it. I assume it is intended to fit in a round conduit?
I could probably remove the "insides" but don't know if that wouldn't
leave me with a bigger problem to solve...
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