Are you the lanlord or tenant and is it a house or apt and wonder if
landlord should maintain it, Your city probably has all codes online
for you to read, but in an apartment building in a different state I
maintain hall fire extinguishers and hall smoke detectors, im not
required to have a fire extinguisher for each apartment and tenants
cook- burn food and remove batteries so I dont care, and I have one Co
In my state, it looks like the *owner* is responsible.
701.2 Responsibility. The owner of the premises shall provide and
maintain such fire safety facilities and equipment in compliance with
these requirements. A person shall not occupy as owner-occupant or
permit another person to occupy any premises that do not comply with
the requirements of this chapter.
I don't know what the laws are, but if I were a responsible owner of a
rental property I would see that the batteries are changed at least
once a year whether I was required to do so or not. Also, if I were a
good/responsible tenant I would make sure the batteries were fresh
whether I needed to or not. To have a law just shows what this world
is coming to. Nobody wants to be responsible for their own welfare/
safety and etc.
Hank <~~~thinks people can't take care for themselves anymore
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:35:35 -0800, Andrade wrote:
I'd say the landlord as it his property as required by law.
But it's your duty as the renter to insure they are in working order at all
times. What's more important to you? A few bucks for a battery or your
Up here in Calgary 3 people burnt to dead living in a rented suit.
None of the alarms worked. The landlord got fine very heavily.
Regardless who is responsible, I'd make sure they work where I am.
In my house they are hard wired with battery back up. I mixed the string
with flame detector, smoke detector and CO detector.
Since the question was regarding California, here's an answer
from a California Q&A forum.
Q: Because landlords are required to install working smoke
detectors, shouldn't they be responsible for maintaining them
as well? I am a tenant, and I think I should be able to deduct
the cost of replacing the batteries every year. (December 2002.)
Since 1987, state law has required landlords to provide operable
smoke detectors at the beginning of all tenancies in multiple-unit
buildings. Replacing batteries of smoke detectors in your unit is
not the landlord's obligation, unless that's written into your rental
agreement. You, as a tenant, must assume some responsibility
for basic maintenance of your rental unit, which means keeping
it clean and replacing, at your own expense, minor items with a
naturally short life that wear out during your tenancy, such as
light bulbs and batteries. On the other hand, if your smoke
detector doesn't work even with a new battery, then notify your
landlord, who must then repair or replace the smoke detector.
Also, property owners are responsible for replacing the batteries
of smoke detectors located in common stairwells.
In nearby Chicago, it seems there are several fires each year in
rental units where there are no working smoke detectors because the
batteries have been removed, presumably 9V batteries that someone has
taken to us in a radio or something else. I have never heard on any
of the news reports if the owners were cited as a result of the
Or possibly because the owner was cooking and got tired of listening to
the beepage. Been guilty of that one myself, although I did just go
through and make sure all batteries were replaced last weekend. Will be
going to hardwired soon (might as well, all smoke detectors are pretty
ancient and probably ought to be replaced anyway,) hope I don't regret it.
Can someone recommend a particular hardwired smoke head that doesn't
false alarm when you're boiling water? (no, none of my smoke detectors
are all that close to the kitchen.) Was probably going to go with
Gentex based on their popularity for use in hotel rooms and condos, but
am open to other suggestions. (local inspector will require tandem
connection and 9V backup)
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
re: "presumably 9V batteries that someone has taken to us in a radio
or something else"
I'd say the odds are more that the batteries were removed because:
1 - The alarms kept going off while cooking or some other activities
that created smoke.
2 - They beeped to warn of a weak battery, which was removed to stop
the beeping and never replaced.
How many devices use 9V batteries these days? I think the only use in
my house is battery back-up for one clock radio.
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