Have you talked to management about this? Aren't they aware of the
dangers of second hand smoke? That is the first step - get the
!@#$%^&* smokers outside the building. Even if the boss turns you
down, you need to voice your feelings about breathing other people's
noxious emissions. What are the local laws concerning smoking in the
I don't think any personal sized air cleaner is going to do much good
in an office, unless the room is small and has a door you can close.
If I were in your situation I would find another job right away.
Seriously. Like my mother, I am allergic to tobbaco smoke and I feel
physically ill immediately when I smell the stink.
John Davies TLCA 14732
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
You do have rights but your right to smoke inside is harmful to those who do
You've made the choice to poison your body...that is your right. Non smokers
have chosen not to put their bodies thru' that, that is their right.
Much easier for you to smoke outside than it is for a non smoker not to
breath the air inside.
smokers outside the building.
I'm not taking sides, but we need to get terms straight. There are no
"rights" when it comes to smoking. Smoking, like driving (and sometimes
fishing) is a privilege, not a right. It is something that a person is
allowed to do under a certain set of circumstances. This may be a license or
it may be permission from another party or just a lack of objection. Rights
and privileges are not interchangeable terms.
"99windstar" wrote ...
On the contrary, you have a right to put whatever you want in your
body, because you own yourself. Because you own yourself, you have
certain unalienable rights (rights from which you cannot be separated)
to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is the basis of a
If you do not own yourself, then there is no such thing as rights.
Everything is a privelege. This is the basis of a totalitarian
We have long been headed in the direction of totalitarianism. For our
own good, of course.
Liberals are thieves and dictators, unlike
conservatives who are dictators and thieves.
1. There are NO studies alleging ANY connection between second-hand smoke
and ANY deleterious health consequences. ALL such claims to the contrary are
PC bullshit. Just like the hysteria over asbestos.
2. If one doesn't like the working environment, quit. Get a job more
hospitable to your finely-honed sensitivities. Florist or slip-cover
designer come to mind.
3. Voice your feelings or snitch me out if you want. Your ass is fired,
arson, embezzelment, something, one way or another. Further, I'll make it my
mission to see you spend the rest of your otherwise productive life putting
band-aids on syphilitic sailors in Guantanamo.
Agreed. Good advice.
Give it two, three minutes; the smell disappears. If you do break out in
hives, anaphylactic shock, or some other physical, life-threatening symptom,
I believe you can get shots.
Yep. That's what our country has come to. There has to be a law for
everything. One side gets to dictate to the other side. If the other
side doesn't like it, tough shit. Forget about talking things over and
working things out. Or agreeing to disagree and going our separate
ways. Those days are gone. We have become a house divided.
Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
<< I work in an environment where there is second-hand smoke. I am considering
buying a portable air-cleaner to take with me to that job. Does anyone have
any recommendations? >>
Make a real statement: buy a WWII surplus gas mask and wear it at work when
things get smoggy. Beyond that you might need to research commercial air
clarifiers that are used in nightclubs, bars, etc. Good luck.
Walmart has some portable HEPA air cleaners which work good. Get the
largest model and the fan noise will be the most quiet.
HEPA air cleaners (the best air filtering you can buy) are also good for
allergies and can filter illness causing particles out of the air. Point
the clean air output toward where you sit.
"Betsy" wrote in message
Check with your HR office to see if there is an indoor clean air
act in your state, and how the company plans to comply with it.
This is common in Blue states (those that voted Kerry), but
uncommon in Red states (those that voted Bush). It has nothing
to do with Kerry or Bush, it just happens that is how the law
is implemented, in general.
John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 firstname.lastname@example.org
I'm all for you smoking several cartons of cigarettes a day. All I ask is that
when you have difficulty breathing, you won't come to the hospital to complain
about how you can't breathe. I can't fix it, and I don't enjoy listening to the
COPDers whining about shortness of breath.
Go smoke another cigarette.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:56:44 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
Does the hospital know you judge patients according to their
illnesses? If they did you would probably find yourself in the
You are a disgrace to your profession.
Gary R. Lloyd
"When the boot of government is on your neck,
it doesn't matter if it's left or right"
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