I'm with you, chief. Buy the saw and you can keep it when you're done. I got
some safety training some years ago, and it's worth every penny.
Moving the clay is going to be a challenge. The pressure washer.... let us
know if it works?
The one stump I removed, I used a sawzall, and a lot of blades. I got the
cheep blades from Harbor Freight, so I didn't worry much about wearing the
teeth off. And wear them out, I surely did.
After the roots are exposed and dry out, maybe kerosene and burn them out?
Ignore Jerry, he thinks he is witty.
I take it you don't live in the kind of neighborhood where you can just drag
the rootballs to a disused corner of the lot, and leave them as habitat for
small creatures? All sorts of things would be very happy living in the nooks
and crannies. Failing that, simplest solution is to just clean out and
deepen the holes they came out of, and bury them. If planting replacement
trees makes that not an option, you are either facing a whole lot of manual
labor with shovel and ax and maul and wedges, or a decent sized check to
somebody with the equipment to get them out of there w/o trashing your lawn
and sprinklers and such. Dirty wood like that will kill a chainsaw quick,
and possibly you, too, from kickback when it jams. People who clear trees
for a living, when they can get away with it, dozer the root balls and other
chaff into bigass piles, soak with #2, and burn them. Unless you can leave
them sit till weather washes dirt off, chipper guy won't even want to touch
them- those dirt clods really cut blade life.
That's not completely true. At a local golf course where they cleared some
woods, all of the stumps were taken out with an excavator and placed in a
huge pile. Then some special piece of machinery was brought in that looked
like a 10 foot diameter cylinder, maybe 8-10 feet high. Inside the cylinder
was a giant flail spinning at a high speed. The giant stumps were dropped in
and what came out of this machine was a nice steady stream of rich looking
soil. I think it was less than 30 seconds to reduce a stump of a 18"
diameter tree to 'nothing'.
Wow- never seen that particular sort of device before. Sounds like a Tim
Taylor special. Guess things have progressed a little since I got an inside
job. Ordinary stump grinders and towed chippers for liftable chunks were all
I ever got to see close up, and both of those weren't that hard to jam.
Drum grinders. Come in big and bigger sizes. They are what are used for
logging operations, and municipal yard waste recycling.
Amazing what you can find on the 'net, if you do a thorough search for
Don't know whether burning is allowed - best to check. We had a palm
stump that we wanted to, at least, get the top off so's we could lay
pavers over the area. Palms are like a ball of twine, soak up water and
do not cut with a saw very easily. We soaked it with denatured alcohol
- which I think mixes with water - and then burned it down. Do not
leave unattended, and do not put more alcohol on it when you think the
fire is out but it isn't :o) Keep kids away and keep fire extinguisher
handy. It's quite a shock to be holding a gallon can of alc. and to
suddenly see flames coming from the can :o)
Good luck with Jeanne and Lisa :o)
I read through the thread and don't really see any suggestions that
you can use except for possibly burning. My approach would be a
comgination of some of them. Pressure washer to get as much dirt as
possible off, chain saw to cut them into chunks you can move.
No, cutting up the dirty root balls will not destroy your saw. It
will destroy your chain, bar, drive sprocket and possibly the clutch.
These are easily replaceable and not that expensive. Even just
pitching the saw away at the end of the job will be cheaper than any
other method (except burning) You will also be sharpening the chain
several times while working.
This is one of those jobs that will cost money (unless you can burn
them in place). Some jobs just can't be done 'on the cheap'.
There's another approach which is easy, inexpensive, and won't damage
anything, but it does take a lot of time: rotting it out.
Wood will decompose into soil given four additional ingredients: air,
water, nitrogen, and bacteria.
Air: Expose as much of the stump as possible. Drill holes into it to
let air in.
Water: Water it frequently; try to keep it moist. If you can, rig up
a drip to keep it constantly moist. If possible, keep it out of the
sun so it won't dry out as quickly.
Nitrogen: Apply a high nitrogen fertilizer
Bacteria: Get some rotten leaves or soil (the stuff you scoop out of
your gutters is good), and spread it over the stump.
If you see mushrooms growing on and around the stump, and see grubs
burrowing in it, then you are doing it right. Fungi, insects, and
bacteria will all work to convert the wood back to soil.
If you keep a compost pile, start a new one on top of the stump.
It may take a year or more.
In article firstname.lastname@example.org says...
As has been discussed before, even talking with your insurance agent will
require him to register your conversation in a database used to raise
your premium. If you see your insurance agent walking down a street,
divert your eyes, walk in a different direction, and don't let him see
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 01:57:15 -0500, someone wrote:
I think that's crap in a case like this. This is mainly a worry for
people who have a history of numerous petty claims, like they are
"trying to get their money's worth" out of their insurance. Naturally
there will be some folks who claim its not their fault, they are not
like that, its just circumstances, and maybe some are right, but they
fit the pattern.
But THIS TIME there was a frickin' HURRICANE. Everybody's premiums in
the whole area are likely to be effected by such conditions, while
OTOH nobody in the area would not stand out merely for making an
In the age of computers, that insurance companies track each covered
premises, is fearful news only to superstitious homeowners. We
operate four commerial properties and it is routine that RFPs for
renewal quotes include a 3 year "loss run" (history) for each
location. A zero loss report or inquiry is just that, no loss. Not a
big deal. "Required to register" makes thing sound much more sinister
than they are. There is a 'file' on each property - so what - no
But as OP clarified, as the trees did not hit his house, they are
'merely' landscaping and not covered.
Nope. Get a CLUE.
"C.L.U.E. reports indicate losses by type. Consumers should be aware that
contacting their company or their agent to discuss an actual loss might be
considered reporting a claim, even if the company does not end up making a
claim payment. This is because when a loss occurs, the policy requires the
company to take specific actions within specified time frames. Consumers
should be specific as to whether they are filing a claim or only making an
"Many home insurers count inquiry calls -- calls in which homeowners simply
ask informally whether their policy will cover certain damages and are told
that it won't -- as unpaid losses."
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