A new study shows daycare costs more than rent and mortgage in almost every state

May 18, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 53 Replies
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Aha. I remember that now, vaguely. I wasnt' following him when he did this stuff and it never sank in during the pres. campaign.

I think pension plans should be first in the bankruptcy distribution order, ahead of everything or something close to that. I don't know how employers get away with raiding the pension fund, or even underfunding it. it's almost outright theft.

When I was working, none of the places had a pension plan and I was okay with that so I wouldn't have to worry that they would steal it from me.

Trump does what he says he will do and if you understand business you would understand bankruptcies.

I liked Romney as he had been a business man and a governor but people said with Romney care he was not much different from Obama. They were right and he was what I call now a vulture capitalist.

Lets look at promises first

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Now lets look at how people got screwed from bankruptcy, a tool he used frequently

I've owned and operated businesses. I know about bankruptcy. Someone always gets screwed out of money.

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Yah, which Democrat said "If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it"

The 401k with matching contribution solves all that.

An real-time app that tracks Nancy & Paul Piglosi's insider trades would be helpful too.

Trump's bankruptcy was peanuts compared to the damage caused when your boy shut down the Keystone XL.

That's why in MANY cases a family is farther ahead to remain a single income family through the child rearing years. The stay at home parent saves childcare costs, housekeeping costs, and reduces food costs because home cooking can save a LOT on groceries. When we had our 2 girls (13 months apart) 40+ years ago we were farther ahead with my wife - a nurse - staying home while I worked as a meckanic. Would have been farther ahead if she worked and I stayed at home but she was (possibly) afraid I would have killed them!! There were MANY times when I got home she just said "here they are - YOU look after them for a while" while she left to go grocery shopping, or just for a walk / break from the kids.

The insanity of Doug Ford's "$10 a day daycare" in Ontario is second only to his "Buck a Beer" election campain and hid elimination af passenger car registration fees in screwing up Ontario's budget - and is driving people out of the Day-care business - - -. Quality day care HAS TO cost significant money. The people charged with looking after your little darlings/brats NEED to be adequately paid, and the cost of rent/mortgage also directly increases the cost to the providers - as does the increase in the cost of food, energy, and EVERYTHING ELSE involved in providing the service.

No, actually they are pretty much "superhuman"

Much of the problem with today's generation (and the last one) is they were NOT PARENTED. The values of their parents, and THEIR parents before them have not been passed on. They have been raised to the lowest common denominator by (mostly) for profit daycare who are (predominantly speaking) not expected or allowed to instill any values in the kids. A paid day care provider is not able to discipline kids - and in many cases isn't allowed to "love" them either - one reason why private in-home day-care can be advantageous - but often more expensive.

The outcome when raised by Moms who have been raised by Moms, who have been raised by Moms - - is most often better adjusted kids who grow up to make better life choices - and raise, in turn, better kids.

When Dan's step up tothe plate and do THEIR jobs, the outcomes are even better.

My wife went back to work part time evenings and weekends when the kids got a bit older - working (as a nurse) when I could be home monitoring the kids - and she could sleep while the kids were at school - and then gave up front-line nursing and took a less demanding job with civilized hours - making less money but trading it for quality of life - -

That ended with families "having to have" new furniture, fancy gadgets, and the best of everything right away. In the '50s/'60s we grew up with ecclectic used furniture, dressers made from orange crates, bookshelves made from recycled bricks and boards, 6 year old used cars (one - not 2), and hand-me-down clothes and toys. When I was about 13 I got my first bike - in peices - likely over 20 years old - that I painted and assembled and loved until it was handed down tomy younger brother when I got my licence - and my 8 year old $60 car (about the same situation as my first bike)

Those who are willing to do the same can live even better today than we did then. It is not so much the high cost of living as it is the cost of living high!!!!

And some slime-bag almost always comes out smelling like a rose. With corporate bankrupsy situations it often takes 3, or 4, or 5 before the slime-ball involved actually feels the cosequences. A large number are called "bankrupsies of convenience" for very good reasons.

Times are tough now for families. Have you seen the price of new cell phones? If you have two or three kids that sure runs up the expenses.

I was able to buy a house ($10,600) when I was 20, a few months before we got married. Stayed home while some of our friends were going on cruises and such. Kids came first. It was some years before we had two used cars. Priced from $15 to $100.

My grandmother bought us our bedroom set as a wedding gift. Still looks great 58 years and three houses later.

They're small. They shouldn't eat much. $10 is more than enough.

The most expensive cell phone I've owned in the last 15? years cost me less than $100. My last 4 or 5 have been 100% free (hand-me-downs from friends, customers, and family) The data plan is a different story but not necessary - particularly since I'm retired I COULD get away with WiFi and I wouldn't NEED the high speed internet or the "fat" TV Cable package - and KIDS don't NEEDcell phones

A good friend ran home based day care and she was surprized how much food and snacks ran - - -

I thought it was largely that the parents want to be able to reach them. (Even though for 1000's of years you couldn't reach your children most of the day, without a lot of trouble if at all.)

Yes, once a kid goes to kindergarten he needs the latest and best phone available. Only terrible parents would but the kids a cheap $500 phone.

I've heard stories about kids, mostly teens, using the phone in class to text friends, call mom, etc. Cannot imagine being a teacher today.

There have been a number of articles published recently about how kids benefit from not being able to use their phones in school, and about how schools are accomplishing that.

Just read in Reader's Digest about the incidence of nearsightedness (myopia) increasing in recent years. Gave an explanation of how the eye grows. So, what is the cause? Kids not outside in sunlight enough.

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