I don't know why you think that. Very few people get their signal from
OTA these days. I have 3 standard TVs that will all work just fine
with cable. And, they will show up on places like Craigslist before
people just throw them away. I just bought my girlfriend a 27" Sony
Wega Flatscreen with the original remote off of CL for $30.00. That
thing has a better picture than a lot of the LCDs that I've seen!
There are 10 or 20 percent or more that do, and that is still a large
number of tvs. Plus a lot of people have cable or something but it
isn't connected to the tv in the kitchen or the bathroom, and they'll
buy a new tv to replace the one that doesn't work.
Maybe big expensive tv's will be on craig's list, but I don't have
room or desire for big tv's anyhow. 19 inhces is my limit.
I find quite a few working tvs now. I'm sure there will be more right
after the conversion.
I won't get around to looking there. But other people have benefitted
from your post, I'm sure.
I don't know about the percentage, but isn't that the reason they came
out with the converter boxes? And who in the world has cable, but has
a TV in the kitchen and bathroom that isn't connected to cable? I've
never seen such a thing. I have a TV in my kitchen that is connected
to cable...why use an ant? And people that have a TV in a BR, are just
plain weird, IMO. I go to the BR to do three things, and none of the 3
are to watch TV.
What does your room and desires, have to do with people throwing away
perfecting working NTSC TVs between Christmas and March?
According to your claims, they will be on the sidewalks and next to
dumpsters, regardless of size....If that's true, I guess I'm gonna be
cruising the roads, very soon.
Converter boxes will be too much for some people. And I can even see
it myself. Some people have postponed buying a new tv, because of the
conversion or for other reasons, but the need for a converter box (and
thus for two remote controls, or maybe one can control at least some
tv functions from teh converter remote control) will push them over
the edge, and they'll buy a new tv. They should take the old one to
Goodwill Industries, but many won't bother. Heck, I once found a 1500
dollar electric wheel chair next to the dumpster at an apartment
building not too far away. Worth 1500 dollars when I found it (maybe
4500 new). Fortunately it didn't get trashed. I took it home and
donated to the MD or MS foundation.
People who live in apartments that come with only one jack, or more
likely one in the living room and one in the big bedroom, who don't
know how to connect splitters, drill holes, or run wires themselves.
And either the apartment won't put in another jack or the tenant won't
pay what seems like an inflated fee.
They're not going to go to the trouble of advertising smaller tvs,
especially those that are more than a couple years old. Even on
Craig's list where it is easy. I know my neighbors, based on what
they throw away already. Some work long hours, and for almost none of
them is 30 dollars is enough to get them to advertise.
I think it's true. That's one reaosn why I want my surgery in early
January, so I'll be driving around by the time they're out.
I'll try to post back the middle of February, but I may forget or go
out of town around then. (I forget things all the time these days. :(
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:50:06 -0600, email@example.com wrote:
I watch very little TV if any at all, yet I have a theater room. No
cable. Get all the news and weather online and with radio. My
theater room is used for playing DVDs, no Blu-ray yet until prices
come down. If there is a TV program I want to watch, I record it on
my PC (I have a tuner) then play it back. I can watch an hour show
in about 40 minutes when I skip the crap. Most of the time PBS is the
only channel worth watching.
Here is an example of a TV tuner card that can be inserted into a card slot
in your PC.
However, you still need a signal source. If you don't have a high-speed
broadband connection (via cable, DSL, etc.), you may not be able to
received the signals. I'm not sure if these work with an antenna, but due
to your location, you would probably need a high mast outdoor antenna,
probably with a rotator.
That type of antenna setup should also work with your present converters
and TVs and bring in more broadcast stations.
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
They have a series of things with a cutesy name that have co-ax input,
from an antenna or cable, some with remote control and some with
digital video recorder software for 80 to 150 iirc.
I saw one on sale at Staples or someplace on Thanksgiving weekend, but
a( I didn't have time to check if it was the model I wanted. b) I
still haven't connected my computer to my TVs, and I am willing to
record via the computer, but I don't want to have to sit at my desk to
watch the stuff.
Well, I have never bought any software. I use freeware, or what
friends, family and my employer have given to me when they upgrade.
I built my current computer for $325.00 2 yrs ago, and I have 3 very
nice 19" CRT monitors that I got from my employer when they went to
Also, got Windows 2K Pro and XP Pro for free. (just got the XP a
couple of months ago when my employer went to Vista)
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:54:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
My Hauppenpauge tuner is working with an attic antenna only, no cable.
It comes with software, although poorly written, that will record
programs (weekly, daily or one-time). It picks up high definition.
The tuner card has absolutely nothing to do with the Internet, so it
doesn't matter if you have DSL, cable, dialup, or no Internet at all.
You can get an off-brand tuner card for as little as $20. There are
tiny USB versions for laptop PCs or full-featured tuner cards. Tuner
cards do produce heat, so make sure your PC has proper ventilation.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:35:00 -0600, "bill allemann"
You can buy both analog and digital TV tuner cards that plug into a
computer's PCI slot, connect via USB, or connect via ethernet that
allow you to watch and record over the air TV, and work with a cable
box to watch cable TV.
All these boards come with the manufacturer's own application to turn
your computer into a TV. Or, if you have the Media Center Edition of
XP, Vista Home Premium, or Vista Ultimate, you can use that.
YTou can't upgrade XP to make it Media Edition, can you?
I find that strange. It seems like just the sort of thing people
would want to do after the fact, weeks or months after installing XP.
Is Vista the same way?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:35:00 -0600, "bill allemann"
That's possible but there are also tv cards that go in slots and
receive tv from the air. A friend gave me one that he wasn't using
anymore. I put a 4 foot piece of single strand wire in the co-ax
connector and could get about three stations. (If I connected cable
instead, or a better antenna to the same jack, I'd get more stations)
The problem was that I could only see tv and couldn't use the
computer. I think it was possible to put the tv picture in a little
box in the corner, but then I could barely see it.
Instead I watch a 12 or 15 inch tv that is on the dresser to the left
of me, and the computer is in front of me.
There's probably some way with the tv-card to save the tv show, but I
don't want to fill my hard drive, and to play it back, I'd have to sit
at my desk and still couldn't do my computer work at the same time..
It also has a radio tuner, with a separate antenna input, which I put
another wire in, but it didn't get many stations, and I have a real
radio on the bed behind me.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:40:43 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
Your second jab in one thread. Why can't we have a technical
discussion without bringing in politics?
Lots of NPR programs have nothing to do with politics or anything
liberal or conservative.
And all of it is better than Limbaugh and Hannedy. Surely you don't
listen to those.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:42:28 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
Of course not. You had already inserted politics, the same basic
comment twice in one thread, and there's no reason you shouldn't get
some back at you.
You also misuse the word "hypocrisy". It's saying one thing and
doing or believing another, in different forums, so that you give a
false impression of your views in the first forum. I did everything
in one post, no secret from anyone. You may find it inconsistent,
but I show the reason it's not in the first paragraph above.
And Joe, if you think I'm wrong, you obviously don't listen to enough
NPR. Plus it has almost no commercials, unlike the never ending
commercials on AM.
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