UV-C Knowledge - ASHRAE, etc.

TO ALL THAT HAVE SAID SNAKE OIL, MAGIC LIGHT, GIMMICK, MAGIC, MARKETING HYPE, NOT CREDIBLE, BULLSHIT, HOT AIR, DID I FORGET ANY. I AM SURE THAT AT THE VERY LEAST ONE PERSON HERE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT WOULD BE INSULTING, NASTY OR JUST PLAIN OLD NOT NICE.

I CAME TO THIS GROUP TO LEARN FROM PROFESSIONALS AND HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PRODUCTS THAT I DISTRIBUTE AND MAYBE HAVE SOME GOOD FOR ALL HERE AS THE OUTCOME. I HAVE TAKEN PLENTY OF ABUSE FOR NOT ONE GOOD REASON. I MUST ADMIT THAT THERE WERE SOME GOOD AND RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE.

HAVE MORE OF AN OPEN MIND AND BENEFIT FROM THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IT MAY SOMEDAY IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU IN ALL ASPECTS INCLUDING YOUR BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH THERE ARE ASSHOLES IN LIFE BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE POEPLE A CHANCE, THEN HAVE THAT DETERMINING FACTOR.

IT A SHAME THAT MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR OWN INDUSTRY, READ BELOW AND RETAIN THE INFORMATION THAT YOU READ. I'LL ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY WHEN YOU DONE. JUST LIKE MOST OF YOU HERE YOU THINK YOU KNOW ALL AND CONSTANTLY MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE NOT ONLY ME. WHEN THEY ASK YOU QUESTIONS. I HAVE WATCH ALL OF YOU DO THAT DO THAT TO PLENTY OF PEOPLE ON HERE OR CALL THEM CHEAP AND TO CALL A TECH. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ACT LIKE PROFESSIONALS SO THAT YOUR INDUSTRY IS RESPECTED. THEN MAYBE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE I SEE ASKING QUESTIONS IN HERE WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE CALLING A "CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL" IN THEIR AREA INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX THE THE UNITS THEMSELVES.

Beleive ASHRAE?

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Committees BCBR, Technical Resource Group on Blast, Chemical and Biological Remediation; TC 2.9, Ultraviolet Air and Surface Treatment ....

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Using UltraViolet Light In HVAC Systems File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Using UltraViolet Light in HVAC Systems ? Ft. Wayne ASHRAE Seminar ? July 25, ..... HVAC Systems and Components, Section Five, Sub-Section

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STANDARD AND GUIDELINE REQUIREMENTS FOR UVGI AIR TREATMENT SYSTEMS File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML ASHRAE Trans. 106(2), 4-15. Kowalski, W.J., and Bahnfleth, W.P. 2000b. UVGI design basics for air and surface disinfection. HPAC 72(1),.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists
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Dude you haven't said a thing that most here don't already know. You are a salesman. You were told not to advertise here. You didn't have the courtesy to lurk and learn before you posted. You weren't here to learn. You are here to tell us how great your lights are and how smart you are. You aren't the first and you won't be the last. Peddle your bullshit elsewhere. Come back with a CMS designation. I'll listen.

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Bill

"Dude you haven't said a thing that most here don't already know." Like I said learn how to read. SNAKE OIL, MAGIC LIGHT, GIMMICK, MAGIC, MARKETING HYPE, NOT CREDIBLE, BULLSHIT

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

So you don't sell UV lights eh? Even your email says sales. Lying isn't nice.

"Many internet communities advise newbies to lurk for some time to get a feel for the specific culture and etiquette of the community" Obviously you are new to the internet. Or something else. Maybe you better learn what lurk means jimmy.

Maybe you better explain what ASHRAE is and their purpose. I looked at the first link for them you posted. Maybe you better explain that one too. This "CMS design". What is that? Surely not "CMS designation"? CMS is a classification of RSES membership. Come on jimmy get in the game.

NO SALES even under the guise of "education" jimmy. We can tell the difference. Maybe you better troll your wares in a more receptive newsgroup that doesn't have a prohibition against it like alt.home.repair. They love salesmen and buying things over there.

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Bill

Bill you really can't be serious. Your proving more and more that you need help. Child molestation? CMS designation, RSES - who ever said that UV-C Applications have anything to do with RSES members - "The HVACR Training Authority, who earn CMS classification. Did I ever say that I was a tech. or repaired HVAC systems? Just read you responses and the things you say and you know about etiquette and a specific culture? Did I ask you to buy anything? Did I try to sell you anything? as to the links they speak for themselves and if you don't know who ASHRAE is, you might want to find another occupation. Again with making statements of the sales, Bill you keep saying the same old boring things over and over again. You seem to be the only person that keeps talking about me selling things. I was talking to different people here. Enough already with you don't post anything else to me unless its intelligent and has another purpose than arguing.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Go shove it up your ass, you f****ng moron.

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Jeffrey Lebowski

Then why are you here jimmy? It's clear you haven't a clue outside the narrow scope of the things on your website. (That you don't sell.)

So you what? Want us to believe you're a UV light missionary? Doing the light's work for the betterment of mankind? Someone should smack that knob on your head.

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Bill

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" wrote in message news:_2lai.44$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe12.lga...

The truth is, there's no one here that believes otherwise. You should have researched this trade a whole lot better before jumping in head first. Too late now. And that's what you come off like. A guy who's desperate. Just look at your sig.. Your message ID info at the top of this post... "..Specialists" and snipped-for-privacy@blablabla.com...

You're ruberstamping your company letter-head at every opertunity, even when you've been told by a neighborly few it's unapropriate.

I wish you would think up even MORE ways to self-gloss your self. Make you & your company even more important somehow. Supersize your self!

OK then... Do you check your own bulbs? How do you check/document your bulbs uv output. What brand of calibratable equipment do you use.

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Hmmm, Mouthful sales pitch like used car salesman. What is your back really? You just pointed to whole bunch of URLs which any one can do.

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Tony Hwang

You're welcome. I have a suggestion, and just wondered if you ever tried this.

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Emil H.

Awwww hell.....and I thought your were going to point him at the pic of his sister that spews as much crap as he does :p

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Noon-Air

I should not have to hide who I am or what I represent. I have researched and you can read in other postings here that I can support that. I was asked to change the company with a name I did, I was asked to take out the sales@ in my signature and replace it with a name and I did, I was asked to put in a signature by someone here and I did, I was told that anything that I put in the signature is legal. Now there is a problem with what I have in the signature?

They lamps are set by the manufacturer with the specs. that are necessary for the applications. The bulbs have a life of 9000 hours than the efficiency drops to 80% so it is suggested that the lamps be replaced annually. So if the lamps stay illuminated, they are working until the annual replacement.

There is a fixed radiometer that could be placed on a system as a acccessory: A radiometer is generally used to monitor the output of a UVGI system. It measures the UV intensity produce by UV lamps. The Fixed Radiometer is a type of radiometer designed to indicate relative UV output. It is calibrated (i.e. set) to ?100%? when the lamps are new and operating under normal air conditioning system operation. As the life of the lamps progresses, or if an unusual event such as a burned out lamp occurs, the relative UV output will show significantly lower.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

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Now your going to tell me that the information is not valid. The information is from a ASHRAE sites themselves, etc. Did you read the information?

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

I'll say it again: I said I wanted to talk to the people in here to learn about HVAC, talk about UV-C Technology and to get some opinions and views. I never claimed to be a HVAC tech., because I am not one. But I do know the basics, but I wanted to learn more. All of you should have taken that as a compliment, not a battle.

I do believe in products and I do believe they serve a great purpose and yes I do believe that it is a great thing that its just not some shitty useless product as in many things that are sold to today it does help people and things, so I do feel good about what I do.

But my opions are just them, but when plenty of other highly qualified popele can support what the products do, is why I believe in them.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Good thing I don't have a sister because then this would have become personal.:)

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Wonderful suggestion, Thank You Have you ever worked for NASA?

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Go shove it up your ass, you f****ng moron.

Great suggestion, but I'm not one to shove things up my ass, but Thanks for the thought. You shouldn't either not very manly.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

can't respond to your posts.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

ah now I can you do always have such nice things to say to people?

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

In article , The retardedsobfrom NJ scribbled:

Nobody believes your bullshit jimmy. Quit spamming our newsgroup before we have your ISP spank you.

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Bill

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