Furnace blows but does not heat (intermittent problem)

NO SHIT!

Reply to
Oscar_Lives
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knock yourself out wanker.

I can't think of a legit service comapny who want want YOU as their customer !!

oh wait, I guess there ARE companies who's target market are low-life scum sucking bottom feeding DIY'ers vermin have to eat too.

yeah, thats why the inducer motor is supposed to run non stop. But just imagine an application where the blower is drawing in 100% outside air. Now how smart is it? If the ignition controls are in lockout mode, how long does the blower have to run to dispell dangerous gases? a couple of years?

btw- I know what the problem is and what you as a homeowner can do to fix it. it aint the gas valve or the flame sensor. 95% of the problem is the f****it trying to fix things himself. The other 5% is a real problem fixable by even you errr maybe. try sharpening your touted electronic skills. moron.

Reply to
gofish

Once you take out the stupid philips screw holding down the flame sensor. (purple wire) Clean it with steel wool. Put a robertson screw back in and throw the philips screw out. If there's a condensate sensor in the furnace, orange wire going to what looks like another flame sensor in the black plastic collector box. Just disconnect and tape the end of the wire with electrical tape. It causes problems and it's useless.

-Canadian Heat

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Reply to
Anonymous

And I actually enjoy it more than the (relatively) small amount of money I save.

Really? Interesting, the demographics of my neighborhood makes them all come swarming... most of them salivate when they see big expensive houses.

Why, do you work for Bubba?

I dare you to tell me the name of the company you own or work for. I'm sure the owner (assuming it's not you) and/or his customers would love to see your attitude.

I bet that if you work for a large reputable company (and are not closely related to the boss), that you don't last a day once you associate your name with the attitude you express here.

Hey, if you are SO certain that I will only mess things up and create more business for low-lifes like you, then I dare you to tell me what you "think" the problem is. Then, if I am skilled enough to fix it, then I win -- if I'm not and just screw it up then you (or your business comrades) win.

Seems fair to me or are you just trying to scare people away from your "sacred" turf?

Business must be really bad if you have nothing better to do than to vent at someone who is just innocently asking for advice. I guess it must be boring waiting on the unemployment line and collecting food stamps.

BTW, are you bubba's half-witted twin brother? Sounds like you two both are swimming at the shallow end of the gene pool.

It's so pathetic when you see underemployed and underskilled "service" people so desperately defending their terrain as if they were some medieval guild. I guess being one step away from a McDonald's cashier is pretty scarey when the world starts passing you by...

Reply to
blueman

Warm here too -- the heater is only for a guest room and we have no guests this week...

Reply to
blueman

Flame sensor is like a keavy needle which is usually located opposite side of ignitor. They does not go bad easily, but surface rust make them sluggish. Use ememry cloth or fine fine snad paper to remove rust. Most likely it'll work again,

Reply to
Tony Hwang

Hi, Another could be inducer pressure switch?

Reply to
Tony Hwang

no shit? what a pretentious world you live in.

usually the bigger the house, the bigger the asshole living in it.

money talks, bullshit walks. How much are you willing to lose?

scroll to the very bottom of this post for the answer

Here is free advice. Call a tech. Hmm didnt like that advice, so you get pissy.

How about this advice: tell your freezing guests you are a cheap f*ck trying to save his last nickel, and they can damn well freeze.

Business is so good, I get to choose what I want to do, and for whom.

For wankers like you, I get to tell them to call somebody else.

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call a tech, moron.

Reply to
gofish

Here is some advice... learn how to read and mind your manners (at least if you want to have some customers).

I said I would be happy to call a tech if it was not a DIY job. Nevertheless, still would like to know the diagnosis in advance for the following very two reasonable reasons:

  1. To save tech time and money by giving them a clue to the diagnosis in advance so that they can bring the right parts and zero in on the problem
  2. To avoid being "screwed" by people like you who don't seem to care at all about the customer and are more concerned about their own bottom line

... and I guess by your attitude you choose to have very few (repeat) customers. But then again, you are probably a coward -- talk tough anonymously on this newsgroup and then kiss the asses of your customers in person.

Why do you waste your time (and everyone else's on this newsgroup)?

- Is your ego that low?

- Are you so threatened by a homeowner with a little initiative and intelligence?

Well enough of my wasting my time reading your pathetic drivel... So welcome to my kill file and feel free to waste your unemployed free time talking to nobody while other hard-working techs actually help people and earn a good living in return...

Reply to
blueman

CJT - thanks for the positive and constructive comments. I really don't get some of the guys on alt.hvac. Not only do they have nothing productive to add, but they immediately go into "asshole" mode.

- If they don't want to help, why do they waste their time responding?

- Are their egos so low and are they so threatened by an occasional DIY that they have to go into "attack" mode?

- Do they truly believe that their attitude will win them loyal customers?

- Are they so down-and-out that anything is better than counting the minutes until the next unemployment check arrives?

Reply to
blueman

I can't explain it, but I know it's been going on for a long time. I was shocked the first time I encountered it. They seem to have lots of time on their hands for slinging insults, so I assume they're mostly disgruntled ex-techs.

Reply to
CJT

I can see why you don't have any guests. They probably know that you do your own furnace work and they don't want to die from carbon monoxide poisoning or from a fireball explosion...

Reply to
Oscar_Lives

Actually you got it totaly wrong... most of us are master HVAC techs, or other certified professionals, and owners with a touch of burn-out from working from can to can't every day. Cheap bastards like you get pissy when you call on Sunday afternoon to come fix you broken furnace that has been down for 2 weeks, then get pissed because you have to pay overtime. Most of us have our first 40 hours for that week in by Wednesday evening. Our regular customers know enough to call when they have a problem with their system, because they know it will be fixed right the first time. You and a lot of others come in here expecting to have us tell you whats wrong with your heating and cooling system(s), sight unseen, then step by step how to fix them. In case you haven't figured it out yet, there are places in the country where it's ILLEGAL for anybody but a licensed tech to mess with your system. There is a reason for this....it usually has to do with somebody that didn't have a clue screwing with their furnace with the resultant loss of life, limb, and/or property. Sure you *might* save a buck or 2 by DIY, but with the new equipment, and controls, if you don't have the training, its highly likely that you can cause terminal damage to the whole system. With an average cost of over $8,000 to do a simple system replacement, thats going to be a real expensive lesson.

That being said, its your life, and your money...you can do what you want.

Reply to
Noon-Air

Another "brilliant" ad-hominem comment from another underemployed, disgruntled tech... If you have nothing constructive to say, then stop wasting bandwidth... Get yourself a life!

Reply to
blueman

Interesting how peope from other professions don't seem to have the same arrogance and selfishness. It's also "ILLEGAL" in many places to do your own electrical, plumbing, etc. and the ability to cause damage is at least as high but you don't see those practitioners acting like a bunch of babies.

Anyone who asks a question is somehow a "cheap bastard". Amazing that even though I specifically said that if it wasn't a DIY fix, I would be happy to call in a tech.

Another disgruntled prick to add to the kill file... "Global warming" and the warm winter here in the U.S. must mean that they all have too much time and too little money on their hands...

Reply to
blueman

Yeah, right ...

You're so busy you have hours to spend sitting here insulting others.

Reply to
CJT

I've been having the same problem with my heater for the past couple of months. First tech that came asked me what it's doing. Of course while he was here it worked perfectly, so he said he couldn't fix it until he knew what the problem was. Paid him for the service call, but when it happened again yesterday, I called a different company. Both companies have been in business in my town for a very long time. Second tech came and asked what it was doing. Same exact thing, it worked while he was here, though it hadn't worked for the previous 24 hours. He told me the same thing as the first tech, but I said no...I want it fixed. I don't want to keep calling you guys out, pay the service charge, and it's still a crap shoot as to whether the heater will work. He said he would order a retrofit kit for $397.00, and charge me the $80.00 service charge that it would have been yesterday at the time he does that service. OK, fine, but why didn't either one of them suggest that in the first place? Do they really think that I want to keep paying a service charges with no resolution? So techs do ask homeowners questions before they start, and sometimes they don't make the right suggestions either.

Cheri

Reply to
Cheri

I just went through exactly the same thing with an Amana furnace here. It was the flame sensor and cleaning it with emory paper did the trick. It would go into lock out and then the fan would remain on until I reset the system.

T>

Reply to
BSAKing

I just went through exactly the same thing with an Amana furnace here. It was the flame sensor and cleaning it with emory paper did the trick. It would go into lock out and then the fan would remain on until I reset the system.

T>

Reply to
BSAKing

The only thing you are "certified" at is a "certified mental case" as in demonstrably anti-social behavior.

Right, you work 40 hours out of the first 72 hours of the work week, yet still have hours of free time to spend here insulting well-intentioned homeowners. The only thing you spend 40 hours of a week on by Wednesday is surfing the Internet -- and you only do that because you have the social skills of a rat and about as much chance of landing steady customers...

Reply to
blueman

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